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Post#1 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Jan 5, 2021 5:32 am

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What seems to be the biggest cause of our first losing streak of the year?
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Post#3 » by shakes0 » Tue Jan 5, 2021 2:37 pm

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this is the problem right here. actually one of the main problems, but not the only problem. We currently have no bench. same problem as last year. We need Rondo and Gallo back or else we're going to keep losing games.

In a nutshell here are the issues I see with the team...

1. We play ZERO defense. Don't give me this crap about improved defense. It's a lie. The D SUCKS. Trae is trying, but there's no escaping his awful defense. Every time someone has to help him it results in an offensive rebound and put back. Collins is pretty much just as bad a defender as Trae, he's just taller.

2. To make up for our terrible defense we MUST shoot lights out to win games. We can do this, but not without a competent second unit. Which brings us to problem #2. We have no bench right now. Goodwin is horsepoop. He has no business playing in the NBA. Solomon Hill is garbage. Fernando is garbage. Bogi is taking way too many contested 3's as a result of no good PG being out there. Huerter is trying, but he also could use a good PG to set him up for some clean catch and shoots.


Not happy right now. It's not fun watching a game where your team has a big lead and you can't enjoy it because you know 100% they are going to blow the lead and the game. That's how I felt watching both of the last two games while we were still up big in both. You could tell from the 2nd quarter we were gonna lose to Cleveland. Same with the game last night.
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Post#4 » by jayu70 » Tue Jan 5, 2021 3:04 pm

We've gone from being blown out in 3rd quarters last season, to not being able to hold a lead, sigh.
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Post#6 » by tbhawksfan1 » Thu Jan 7, 2021 5:07 pm

There's some chatter that Trae and LP don't love each other. Trae's Dad has multiple anti LP posts....

Does Trae seem a little off lately? Any possible connection?

I know we have a lot of injuries, but we also have all the starters and two of 6-8 available and lost three in a row to supposedly inferiour teams
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Post#7 » by leo7 » Thu Jan 7, 2021 7:27 pm

Someone said in another thread that LP wanted him to stop taking bad shots, and setup his teammates more. But Trae is not a Rondo type of PG, which is what LP probably wants him to be.

I'm not sure if Trae will ever become a consistent shooter. He's so streaky right now. I hope he's just in a shooting slump, because he can't rely on getting lots of calls every game.
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Post#8 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Jan 9, 2021 1:27 am

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Atlanta Hawks: How Should They Close Games?

Injuries are dictating many of the Atlanta Hawks' lineup decisions through the first part of the season. Clint Capela has missed time. Danilo Gallinari and Rajon Rondo have barely played. Kris Dunn and Onyeka Okongwu have yet to make their debuts. Atlanta has relied upon Brandon Goodwin, Solomon Hill and even Nathan Knight more than anyone could have envisioned.

Depth is allowing the Hawks to navigate their injury bugs without imploding. They have plenty of capable bodies to get them through, and their offense, despite some recent struggles, still ranks inside the top seven of points scored per possession.

Crunch time is an altogether different beast. Even with a limited number of personnel available, Atlanta is facing difficult decisions regularly down the stretch of tight tilts and the fourth quarter in general. Those choices will only get harder as the roster inches closer to full strength.

Do they close with Clint Capela, for his defense? What does that mean for Gallinari and John Collins? Will they both play? Just one of them? How does the late-game wing rotation shake out? Who from the quartet of Bogdan Bogdanovic, Kevin Huerter, De'Andre Hunter and Cam Reddish closes? Should Collins play the 5, with Capela on the bench, to make room for three of them? Is it possible Gallo plays some 3, leaving room for only one of them?

This is an interesting, borderline good, problem. But it's still a problem. The Hawks are shooting 19 percent from three (4-of-21) and a minus-19 through 21 minutes of clutch play. Their entire fourth-quarter splits aren't any better. Small sample sizes are drenched in caveats, but as of now, Trae Young is probably the only one who is guaranteed a spot on the floor to close games.
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Post#12 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:16 am

Due to all of these injuries, Hawks applying for a hardship exception. Anyone know what the benefits/drawbacks are?

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Post#13 » by jayu70 » Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:42 am

Jamaaliver wrote:Due to all of these injuries, Hawks applying for a hardship exception. Anyone know what the benefits/drawbacks are?

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I think 10 day contract players.
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Post#14 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:28 pm

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The Atlanta Hawks had a lot going for them.

They infused the roster with veteran talent over the offseason, adding Danilo Gallinari, Bogdan Bogdanovic and Rajon Rondo. Clint Capela, last year's big addition via trade, is healthy. Trae Young is an offense unto himself, and De'Andre Hunter appears to have made a leap.

Given all that fresh talent and potential and the attendant legitimacy of the team's playoff aspirations, the Hawks really don't need *this*.

This, to be specific, is the apparent disconnect between Young and John Collins.

According to The Athletic's Sam Amick and Chris Kirschner, Collins was critical of Young in a team film session, airing grievances about the point guard's operation of the offense.

"There was no back-and-forth between the two," Amick and Kirschner reported, "but the pointed criticism caught the attention of the room. And Young, sources say, made it clear to others later that he strongly disagreed with Collins' assessment."

Maybe this is Collins angling for more touches in a walk year (restricted free agent). Or maybe other Hawks share his criticisms of Young's style, which, without casting blame, can be ball-dominant. The apparent fallout, which included Young playing with a lack of aggression and energy in Atlanta's next game (Kobe Bryant in 2010, anyone?), could have been construed as a defiant "are you sure this is what you want?" message.

The Hawks have a real shot to do damage this year, but not if their failure to get on the same page cuts the locker room in half and weakens their product on the floor.
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Post#15 » by Galloisdaman » Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:57 pm

2 quick points.

1. The team is playing without all their big FA so its hard to judge them as a team yet.

2. If the smalls can not guard its hard to judge the bigs. Once the smalls give up easy penetration its very hard on any teams interior.
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Post#16 » by Spud2nique » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:34 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:2 quick points.

1. The team is playing without all their big FA so its hard to judge them as a team yet.

2. If the smalls can not guard its hard to judge the bigs. Once the smalls give up easy penetration its very hard on any teams interior.



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Post#17 » by Jamaaliver » Yesterday 1:07 am

The Hawks again stunk in the fourth quarter, where they have been a spitting mess the entire season. Through Saturday, the Hawks are scoring just 23.7 points per fourth quarter, which ranks last, as does their paltry 95.3 offensive rating in final frames. They are making 35 percent of their fourth-quarter shots, which ranks last, and 26.1 percent of their 3-pointers, which ranks second to last. All told, the Hawks are sporting a league-worst minus-4.2 fourth-quarter point differential and a league-worst minus-16.4 fourth-quarter net rating.

A major part of this problem has been the dismal play of Young, who has been bumbling his way through the last two weeks. In a loss to the Utah Jazz on Friday, Young scored four points on 1-of-11 shooting. A week before that he had seven points on 2 of 9 from the field against the Hornets. For the season, Young is shooting under 40 percent from the field and just 26.5 percent from 3-point range. On Saturday against Portland he went 1 of 9 from deep, and the last miss was one of the worst shots you might ever see, even by modern let-it-fly standards.

It speaks to a larger issue going on with Young, who has completely lost his way. His aforementioned shot selection, which was improving, has regressed.
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