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Cam's Future 

Post#1 » by Rainwater » Mon Jun 7, 2021 5:37 am

What does Cam's future with the Hawks look like? With the success of the current team, guys like Bogdan, Hunter (when healthy) Huerter playing well, and contracts needing to be signed, where does that leave him? Do you he will be traded? If so, for what? For a guy still trying to find his way, I don't know if that will be possible on this current Hawks team with the raise in expectations.
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Post#2 » by atlantabbq99 » Mon Jun 7, 2021 8:53 am

Cam's future is fine. He still has a role as a backup to Hunter or as a backup PG with Lue as a backup SG.

Last year's draft didn't hurt Cam because the Hawks just got Okongwu, but if the Hawks end up drafting a late first round SG/SF and he ends up balling like Herro did in his rookie season, then Cam could be out.

With the injuries of Hunter and Bogs in the last year. Cam's future is very secure because Hawks will need the depth.

Hopefully Cam can make it make it back sometimes during the Sixers' series and hopefully in his first game back he can drop 30 and blow up the internet! :lol:
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Post#3 » by Ball4life32 » Mon Jun 7, 2021 9:42 am

I’d be surprised if he’s traded. I think they’re much higher on him than whatever his value is.
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Post#4 » by muzzhawk » Mon Jun 7, 2021 10:47 am

He will be fine. His versatility as a ball handler and perimeter defender will make him a useful rotation player if he can consistently hit the open 3. His length allows him to backup 1-3 (potentially 4 depending on matchups). Look at how much Solo and Snell played this year. I think long term we would prefer Reddish playing those minutes.

Reddish’s potential is worth persevering with, particularly as his trade value would be so low at the moment. At best he develops into a Paul George lite type player.


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Post#5 » by shakes0 » Mon Jun 7, 2021 2:55 pm

If he learns to just play defense and take catch and shoot 3's he'll be fine. If he continues to believe he is a future all star and take wild shots, drive the ball into traffic and generally show a lack of basketball IQ he will be shipped out of here very soon.
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Post#6 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Jun 7, 2021 2:55 pm

Rainwater wrote:What does Cam's future with the Hawks look like?


This is a really good question.

Ironically, I'd wager that a down season has made it more likely he stays a bit longer. He has little to no trade value and currently, he's unlikely to get very much in a rookie contract extension.

He and Hunter are both due for extension in Summer 2022. I wouldn't be surprised if his agent (Rich Paul?) advises him to bet on himself and enter RFA in Summer 2023.


One big note: I've read a few national pundits indicate that Cam's future may be slotted in at PF going forward. He isn't much of a playmaker for others and his shooting from deep is terribly inconsistent. But he's grown to 6'9" and has the length to allow him to guard bigger players. His ballhandling would give him a huge advantage against frontcourt players. He'd need to add on more muscle and improve as a rebounder, but he could model his offensive game after Jayson Tatum.


At worst, Cam can be a better backup SF than Solomon Hill. So long as he embraces being a defensive specialist who doesn't try to do too much on the offensive end.
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Post#7 » by Rainwater » Mon Jun 7, 2021 4:33 pm

Do you guys think he will be ok with a back up role? He seems like the type who wants to bet on himself.
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Post#8 » by jayu70 » Mon Jun 7, 2021 5:04 pm

Rainwater wrote:Do you guys think he will be ok with a back up role? He seems like the type who wants to bet on himself.

He has to show that he can be more than just a defensive player. He has a lot to do on the offensive side of the ball before betting on himself. He's not a shooter, he has a weak handle, his drives to the basket is irratic. He has a few games where you can see the potential so hopefully he puts it all together.
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Post#9 » by Rainwater » Mon Jun 7, 2021 5:56 pm

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Rainwater wrote:Do you guys think he will be ok with a back up role? He seems like the type who wants to bet on himself.

He has to show that he can be more than just a defensive player. He has a lot to do on the offensive side of the ball before betting on himself. He's not a shooter, he has a weak handle, his drives to the basket is irratic. He has a few games where you can see the potential so hopefully he puts it all together.


I just fear he won't get the opportunity to show case those talents now that the team is winning. The opportunity to make errors and grow is smaller and he might have to go to another team to develop.
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Post#10 » by jayu70 » Mon Jun 7, 2021 6:02 pm

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Rainwater wrote:Do you guys think he will be ok with a back up role? He seems like the type who wants to bet on himself.

He has to show that he can be more than just a defensive player. He has a lot to do on the offensive side of the ball before betting on himself. He's not a shooter, he has a weak handle, his drives to the basket is irratic. He has a few games where you can see the potential so hopefully he puts it all together.


I just fear he won't get the opportunity to show case those talents now that the team is winning. The opportunity to make errors and grow is smaller and he might have to go to another team to develop.

There will be enough minutes for him behind Hunter, next season - Solo and Snell will most likely be gone. His focus should be trying to be impactful in the minutes he gets and be a lead guy for the 2nd unit next season.
Example: in these playoffs, Bogi has to run with the 2nd unit when Trae sits, IF, big IF, Cam develops his ball handling and decision making he can fill that role.
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Post#11 » by shakes0 » Mon Jun 7, 2021 7:15 pm

Rainwater wrote:Do you guys think he will be ok with a back up role? .


to answer this, no I don't think he will be ok with a backup role. This is the same guy who reportedly was upset at the way he was being utilized by Pierce. Imagine being as bad as Cam Reddish and having the nerve to think the coach isn't playing you enough?
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Post#12 » by jayu70 » Mon Jun 7, 2021 7:26 pm

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Rainwater wrote:Do you guys think he will be ok with a back up role? .


to answer this, no I don't think he will be ok with a backup role. This is the same guy who reportedly was upset at the way he was being utilized by Pierce. Imagine being as bad as Cam Reddish and having the nerve to think the coach isn't playing you enough?

It wasn't a matter of minutes, it was the role and how he used him. Similar to how Pierce used Bogi to start the season as a strictly floor spreading spot up shooter, just standing still spotting up from 3 as opposed to how Nate is using him and running specific plays for him, getting him on the move. Making use of his versatility.
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Post#13 » by shakes0 » Mon Jun 7, 2021 8:32 pm

jayu70 wrote:
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Rainwater wrote:Do you guys think he will be ok with a back up role? .


to answer this, no I don't think he will be ok with a backup role. This is the same guy who reportedly was upset at the way he was being utilized by Pierce. Imagine being as bad as Cam Reddish and having the nerve to think the coach isn't playing you enough?

It wasn't a matter of minutes, it was the role and how he used him. Similar to how Pierce used Bogi to start the season as a strictly floor spreading spot up shooter, just standing still spotting up from 3 as opposed to how Nate is using him and running specific plays for him, getting him on the move. Making use of his versatility.


standing still at the 3pt line waiting for better players to get him the ball is the only role Reddish should get right now unless he proves that he is better than that. he sure didn't prove that this year.
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Post#14 » by jayu70 » Mon Jun 7, 2021 8:43 pm

shakes0 wrote:
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to answer this, no I don't think he will be ok with a backup role. This is the same guy who reportedly was upset at the way he was being utilized by Pierce. Imagine being as bad as Cam Reddish and having the nerve to think the coach isn't playing you enough?

It wasn't a matter of minutes, it was the role and how he used him. Similar to how Pierce used Bogi to start the season as a strictly floor spreading spot up shooter, just standing still spotting up from 3 as opposed to how Nate is using him and running specific plays for him, getting him on the move. Making use of his versatility.


standing still at the 3pt line waiting for better players to get him the ball is the only role Reddish should get right now unless he proves that he is better than that. he sure didn't prove that this year.

That makes ZERO sense when you look at his 3pt percentages.
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Post#15 » by shakes0 » Mon Jun 7, 2021 8:50 pm

jayu70 wrote:
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jayu70 wrote:It wasn't a matter of minutes, it was the role and how he used him. Similar to how Pierce used Bogi to start the season as a strictly floor spreading spot up shooter, just standing still spotting up from 3 as opposed to how Nate is using him and running specific plays for him, getting him on the move. Making use of his versatility.


standing still at the 3pt line waiting for better players to get him the ball is the only role Reddish should get right now unless he proves that he is better than that. he sure didn't prove that this year.

That makes ZERO sense when you look at his 3pt percentages.



Agreed, his actual best role would be to just stay on the defensive side of the court and not even join the team on offense.

He is completely broken offensively. At this point I would start him out with the role I described above and if he can't raise his 3pt % then it's time to just get rid of him.
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Post#16 » by jayu70 » Mon Jun 7, 2021 8:57 pm

shakes0 wrote:
jayu70 wrote:
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standing still at the 3pt line waiting for better players to get him the ball is the only role Reddish should get right now unless he proves that he is better than that. he sure didn't prove that this year.

That makes ZERO sense when you look at his 3pt percentages.



Agreed, his actual best role would be to just stay on the defensive side of the court and not even join the team on offense.

He is completely broken offensively. At this point I would start him out with the role I described above and if he can't raise his 3pt % then it's time to just get rid of him.

Again...this makes ZERO sense. He has played 84 total NBA games, 26 games this season - you don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
So your idea is to park him in the corner and just let him shoot 3's :lol: ....so make him a No 3 and D player I'm glad you are not the coach, that's all I got. :lol:
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Post#17 » by CP War Hawks » Mon Jun 7, 2021 9:38 pm

Cam's defensive approach to the game is what will endear himself to Nate, who we all remember was part of a great defensive duo with Payton.

Once he develops a decent enough 3 point shot and game, he will eventually challenge Bogi for starter minutes. That's a long ways off, his defensive acumen will buy him some time before that bridge will need to be crossed.
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Post#18 » by shakes0 » Tue Jun 8, 2021 1:11 pm

jayu70 wrote:
shakes0 wrote:
jayu70 wrote:That makes ZERO sense when you look at his 3pt percentages.



Agreed, his actual best role would be to just stay on the defensive side of the court and not even join the team on offense.

He is completely broken offensively. At this point I would start him out with the role I described above and if he can't raise his 3pt % then it's time to just get rid of him.

Again...this makes ZERO sense. He has played 84 total NBA games, 26 games this season - you don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
So your idea is to park him in the corner and just let him shoot 3's :lol: ....so make him a No 3 and D player I'm glad you are not the coach, that's all I got. :lol:



so what's your idea? Continue to give him the keys o the car when he's on the court and let him do whatever he wants in exchange for it hurting our chances of winning games? Keep in mind that we are now a team that is going to be competing for a top 4 seed going into next season.

My idea makes perfect sense. Start him out with very limited responsibility (play defense and stand in the corner awaiting open catch and shoot opportunities on offense) and if he proves he can do that slowly loosen up the reigns and give him more responsibility.

You say that his 3Pt shooting is poor, but he also took a lot of terrible 3 point shots. Step backs, 3s off the dribble, contested 3s. Let's remove those and see how his shooting is.
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