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What's next for the Hawks?
Posted: Sun Jul 4, 2021 2:04 pm
by dlb731
Now that the season is officially over,. What do the Hawks do to improve on this season?
What were their strengths and weaknesses?
What do they need to do to fix them?
What players should they target to help them out?
Re: What's next for the Hawks?
Posted: Sun Jul 4, 2021 2:27 pm
by jayu70
Priority List:
1. As much as Nate fustrates me with his rotations sometimes. Drop the interim tag so he becomes our permanent headcoach.
2. Resign Collins - yes he says he thinks he should be in the the max conversation, I don't think he gets one. Hawks offered 4/$90 a max from another team is 4/$120 - i think there can be a meeting of the minds somewhere in the middle.
3. Draft - the #20 pick: I'm hoping we can find a 'Capela like trade' - a young player, preferably a PG, on a reasonable long term deal to trade #20.
4. Point Guard - Trae signs his early extention. Back up PG - we went into last offseason needing one and here we are again needing one. I think Dunn picks up his option unfortunately. I hoping he doesn't. Target: TJ MCConnell
5. Lou, Hill and Snell are most likely gone. One of Lou or Hill maybe back on a vet min for the locker room. Lou gave us 1 great game in each playoff series but that was it.
6. The wings: Bogi, Hunter, Reddish Huerter - keepers for now. We never had them all healthy all year. If an early value deal for Huerter can be negotiated, do it.
Add depth players to replace Snell and Hill: Target: Danuel House via trade. (Dunn and a 2nd or two).
7. The Bigs: Hawks need some added depth there. Okongwu - would like to see him progress next season to have him get an even split of minutes with Capela aa his backup. Is Bruno salvageable? Target: Dieng
Run it back and see where we are at the trade deadline.
PG: Young, McConnell, Goodwin
SG: Bogdan, Huerter, Mays (2way)
SF: Hunter, Reddish, House
PF: Collins, Gallinari
C - Capela, Okongwu, Dieng, Fernando, Knight (2way)
Re: What's next for the Hawks?
Posted: Sun Jul 4, 2021 4:12 pm
by jayu70
Re: What's next for the Hawks?
Posted: Sun Jul 4, 2021 6:13 pm
by hawks_fan25
jayu70 wrote:Priority List:
1. As much as Nate fustrates me with his rotations sometimes. Drop the interim tag so he becomes our permanent headcoach.
2. Resign Collins - yes he says he thinks he should be in the the max conversation, I don't think he gets one. Hawks offered 4/$90 a max from another team is 4/$120 - i think there can be a meeting of the minds somewhere in the middle.
3. Draft - the #20 pick: I'm hoping we can find a 'Capela like trade' - a young player, preferably a PG, on a reasonable long term deal to trade #20.
4. Point Guard - Trae signs his early extention. Back up PG - we went into last offseason needing one and here we are again needing one. I think Dunn picks up his option unfortunately. I hoping he doesn't. Target: TJ MCConnell
5. Lou, Hill and Snell are most likely gone. One of Lou or Hill maybe back on a vet min for the locker room. Lou gave us 1 great game in each playoff series but that was it.
6. The wings: Bogi, Hunter, Reddish Huerter - keepers for now. We never had them all healthy all year. If an early value deal for Huerter can be negotiated, do it.
Add depth players to replace Snell and Hill: Target: Danuel House via trade. (Dunn and a 2nd or two).
7. The Bigs: Hawks need some added depth there. Okongwu - would like to see him progress next season to have him get an even split of minutes with Capela aa his backup. Is Bruno salvageable? Target: Dieng
Run it back and see where we are at the trade deadline.
PG: Young, McConnell, Goodwin
SG: Bogdan, Huerter, Mays (2way)
SF: Hunter, Reddish, House
PF: Collins, Gallinari
C - Capela, Okongwu, Dieng, Fernando, Knight (2way)
I like this list. I think we let Lou, Snell, Hill all go and get our locker room vet and backup PG in one man: Derrick Rose.
I'm not sold on giving JC a ton of money simply because I'm not sure the ownership is willing to expand the budget to build good teams around he and Trae. I liked Portis as a part-time starter/bench PF even before this series. I'd love to see if Millsap would take a team-friendly contract as well to be another big with experience. I also think Hunter is a luxury here because he can play PF in a lot of situations.
If Kai Jones makes it to #20 I really hope we take him. He's got potential to be a very good stretch 4 and defender in the NBA.
I didn't even think about House, but that would be a steal if we could trade Dunn and a couple of seconds for him. I'd actually offer Dunn+Bruno+SRP and we can sign Knight to a full NBA contract.
I'm just really excited about next year. I'd love to run this group back with everyone healthy and I wouldn't be upset with paying JC as long as the owners expand the budget in future years to be able to build around JC and obviously a maxed Trae.
Re: What's next for the Hawks?
Posted: Sun Jul 4, 2021 6:32 pm
by jayu70
hawks_fan25 wrote:jayu70 wrote:Priority List:
1. As much as Nate fustrates me with his rotations sometimes. Drop the interim tag so he becomes our permanent headcoach.
2. Resign Collins - yes he says he thinks he should be in the the max conversation, I don't think he gets one. Hawks offered 4/$90 a max from another team is 4/$120 - i think there can be a meeting of the minds somewhere in the middle.
3. Draft - the #20 pick: I'm hoping we can find a 'Capela like trade' - a young player, preferably a PG, on a reasonable long term deal to trade #20.
4. Point Guard - Trae signs his early extention. Back up PG - we went into last offseason needing one and here we are again needing one. I think Dunn picks up his option unfortunately. I hoping he doesn't. Target: TJ MCConnell
5. Lou, Hill and Snell are most likely gone. One of Lou or Hill maybe back on a vet min for the locker room. Lou gave us 1 great game in each playoff series but that was it.
6. The wings: Bogi, Hunter, Reddish Huerter - keepers for now. We never had them all healthy all year. If an early value deal for Huerter can be negotiated, do it.
Add depth players to replace Snell and Hill: Target: Danuel House via trade. (Dunn and a 2nd or two).
7. The Bigs: Hawks need some added depth there. Okongwu - would like to see him progress next season to have him get an even split of minutes with Capela aa his backup. Is Bruno salvageable? Target: Dieng
Run it back and see where we are at the trade deadline.
PG: Young, McConnell, Goodwin
SG: Bogdan, Huerter, Mays (2way)
SF: Hunter, Reddish, House
PF: Collins, Gallinari
C - Capela, Okongwu, Dieng, Fernando, Knight (2way)
I like this list. I think we let Lou, Snell, Hill all go and get our locker room vet and backup PG in one man: Derrick Rose.
I'm not sold on giving JC a ton of money simply because I'm not sure the ownership is willing to expand the budget to build good teams around he and Trae. I liked Portis as a part-time starter/bench PF even before this series. I'd love to see if Millsap would take a team-friendly contract as well to be another big with experience. I also think Hunter is a luxury here because he can play PF in a lot of situations.
If Kai Jones makes it to #20 I really hope we take him. He's got potential to be a very good stretch 4 and defender in the NBA.
I didn't even think about House, but that would be a steal if we could trade Dunn and a couple of seconds for him. I'd actually offer Dunn+Bruno+SRP and we can sign Knight to a full NBA contract.
I'm just really excited about next year. I'd love to run this group back with everyone healthy and I wouldn't be upset with paying JC as long as the owners expand the budget in future years to be able to build around JC and obviously a maxed Trae.
It all depends on how willing Ressler is to go into the Luxury Tax. He said he is willing for a contending team. So next season will be important in at least getting back to this point.
I expect there to be a salary cap spike in 2 years. I'm guessing at that but I think so.
Re: What's next for the Hawks?
Posted: Sun Jul 4, 2021 6:33 pm
by hawks_fan25
I think most championship caliber teams have a roster filled out with some experienced vets. I'm going down the list to figure out some vets to fill out a roster that would be closer to vet minimum contracts. Here's a list of candidates I'd like us to kick the tires on:
Paul Millsap - 36 (15 yrs exp)
Taj Gibson - 36 (12 yrs exp)
Jeff Green - 35 (14 yrs exp)
Javale McGee - 33 (13 yrs exp)
Derrick Rose - 32 (13 yrs exp)
Kent Bazemore - 32 (9 yrs exp)
Blake Griffin - 32 (11 yrs exp)
Gorgui Dieng - 31 (8 yrs exp)
It'd be nice to pull in a couple of these pieces in place of some of the youth on the roster now since we'll be going for it all next year.
Re: What's next for the Hawks?
Posted: Mon Jul 5, 2021 7:15 pm
by jayu70
Another offseason trying to adequately fill the backup PG role. Let's get it right this time.
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Re: What's next for the Hawks?
Posted: Mon Jul 5, 2021 8:15 pm
by saloonyk8
One thing that struck me was I'm not sure Capela is good enough to get to championship level. He can't hit 3s and make traditional centers pay and can't really guard at the caliber of Embiid, Ayton, or Giannis players in the playoffs.
With that said I'm not advocating trading him but just saying to get to next level OO needs to develop or we need someone better at C
Re: What's next for the Hawks?
Posted: Mon Jul 5, 2021 8:18 pm
by saloonyk8
Another way to address the KD, Giannis, Embiid gauntlet in the East is to have slashers that can attack those guys over and over again and get them into foul trouble... Hopefully Reddish or Hunter can be those guys because there's only a few elite players at that level....Kawhi, PG, Lebron, Luka, Tatum
Re: What's next for the Hawks?
Posted: Mon Jul 5, 2021 8:19 pm
by saloonyk8
If Minnesota starts off really poorly I could see Kat being ready to move on and get a fresh start....
And I would offering Capella, Collins, Huerter and picks

Re: What's next for the Hawks?
Posted: Mon Jul 5, 2021 9:38 pm
by jayu70
Re: What's next for the Hawks?
Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2021 12:30 am
by ofm05
saloonyk8 wrote:If Minnesota starts off really poorly I could see Kat being ready to move on and get a fresh start....
And I would offering Capella, Collins, Huerter and picks

Would love to see Trae and Kat on the same team. They would be a nightmare to defend.
Re: What's next for the Hawks?
Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2021 1:02 am
by Jamaaliver
Hawks will indeed have higher expectations next season. I definitely foresee a better record and higher seed in the cards for us...but assuming we'll be back in the ECF is short sighted.
Heat and Celtics both made the Conference Finals in 2020. In 2021, they were each bounced in the first round of the playoffs.
There are generally growing pains that come with jumping up from one tier to the next.
I believe we should be pursuing consolidation trades with much of our young talent. And then filling out the roster with veteran players on cheap deals looking to ride Trae's coattails back to relevance. Lou W and Clint C can attest to how good a useful vet can look on this team.
Capela
Collins
Reddish
Huerter
Hunter
TRae
are each up for contract extensions in the next 14 months.
We're not keeping all of them. Decide which ones are keepers and then move the rest for value.
Re: What's next for the Hawks?
Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2021 2:43 am
by xccelerate
I agree with above. I don't want this team to run it back. We need someone who can pair up with Trae as a 1a/1b star.
No one stepped up after Trae went down like Middleton and Jrue, even Lopez did for Milwaukee.
Trae and Hunter are off limits but all other assets on this team should be expendable to acquire a star.
Though I would prefer we keep Reddish and Okongwu also.
Re: What's next for the Hawks?
Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2021 5:50 am
by atlantabbq99

Hopefully the Hawks can add another super star to pair with Trae like Kawhi, but if not, and the Hawks just add depth this off season, I think Derrick Rose to replace Lou, should be on the top of the list.
Rose is a great win now type of player and what Rose can bring to the team going into the 2022 playoffs could be a bigger game changer than adding Bogs and Gallo last year.
Norman Powell could be another option if Rose is not available
If the Hawks cannot sign a free agent super star, then it looks like the future rest on one of Travis' draft picks, Cam, Kong, Collins, or Hunter, to turn into that 2nd super star, Klay level type of player.
Cap/Kong
Collins/Gallo
Hunter/Cam/Vince
Bogs/Huerter
Trae/Rose
Re: What's next for the Hawks?
Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2021 6:26 am
by CP War Hawks
Hawks will have the MLE and BAE. If they don't address the back up pg with the draft, it's worthwhile guards in FA. Might as well double dip in both to fortify the spot. I'd like to get Glove in as an assistant as well.
Rose - that move would make some noise.
Rivers - most people don't like the guy, but I like his size for the position.
Neto - sneaky good guard. May be better suited as 3rd pg.
Dragic - long in the tooth, but he's a winner.
Payne - impressed with his improvement.
McConnell - good defensive player. I noticed he always got under Trae's skin. Great manager type pg.
Re: What's next for the Hawks?
Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2021 9:39 am
by CP War Hawks
dlb731 wrote:Now that the season is officially over,. What do the Hawks do to improve on this season?
"While the Hawks are open to bringing back Williams, Hawks president of basketball operations Travis Schlenk views the backup point guard spot as an area the team will try to upgrade this offseason, as Sarah K. Spencer of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution writes. “It’s no secret that we’ve always struggled to field a consistent role is at the backup point guard spot,” Schlenk said. “We’ve had a couple of different guys. I think that’ll be one area where we look to shore up this offseason.”
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/atlanta-hawksI'm glad Schlenk recognizes the most glaring weakness and is trying to fix it.
Re: What's next for the Hawks?
Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2021 6:30 pm
by Jamaaliver
Galloisdaman wrote:In fact Young, Bogs, Huerter, Gallo, Lou, and Capella all had defensive problems vs the Bucks.
The Bucks were a tough matchup size wise. Really was a matchup nightmare for the Hawks. The Hawks showed real pride just to bring it to 6 games. I was puzzled why the crowd was so quiet in game 6. I thought the home crowd was a legit factor in other games.
Lopez was too big for Cap.
Giannis too big for Collins (who really battled).
Middleton was too much for KH.
Jrue is too strong for Trae.
Portis was more willing to rebound than Gallo.
Connaughton outplayed Lou off the bench.
Yeah, we could have used an injection of toughness in every playoff series. Capela manhandled the Knicks, but every other team had more size at the Center position and left us wanting for players to impose their will.
Portis, Marcus Smart, Paul Millsap, Derrick Rose could be low cost additions adding toughness at various positions.
Re: What's next for the Hawks?
Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2021 6:37 pm
by Jamaaliver
Re: What's next for the Hawks?
Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2021 9:44 pm
by jayu70
Ressler Interview, very insightful.
That’s made Ressler more excited and eager moving forward — the Hawks are fully committed to “being good for an extended period of time,” Ressler said, and that means competing for a championship.
“We really do believe we are just getting started in building what we’re trying to build,” Ressler said. “... There should be no confusion, we are really proud of where we are. But by no means do we think we’ve gotten, shall we say, to where we’re going. That’s just not the case. Nobody has lost any bit of obsession about where we hope to go.”
On how he views the difficulty of building a roster when guys on rookie-scale contracts are all becoming eligible for extensions around the same time:
“It’s complicated, of course, because what we’re trying to convince people is we’re building something, but let’s not kid ourselves, our job is to run a good business. Every player we’re negotiating with for their contracts are trying to do what I’ve been in their ear (about) from the day they joined the Atlanta Hawks, which is to be good businessmen. Be successful. Be financially focused. And at the end of the day what we are trying to achieve is literally keeping our best players, as you could imagine, trying to make clear that we’re going to have to spend a lot more than we have this season. We fully expect that. I’m not sure we’re going to be able to keep every single player that we want to keep. Pretty good bet, pretty good assumption we will not.
“But I do think we have several years that we should be able to build some real stability and listen, if the question is, and I’m not sure if it is, but if the question is are we scared of the (luxury) tax, are we scared of hitting the tax, are we scared of going into the tax, let’s face it. Our job is to run a good business. I’m scared of paying the tax and not being a good team, yes, that I’m scared of, but if we have to go into the tax to be a great team for a period of time, so be it. It’s the nature of this beast. But our view is really simple, it’s try to be the best we can and try to run a good business. And yes, try to keep as many young players as we can and know that we may not be 100 for 100 on that.”
https://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-hawks/owner-tony-ressler-says-hawks-are-just-getting-started-after-deep-playoff-run/2B5OBGO77ZHXZCZDENQCCN6P4M/