Hawks Plan to Be Active at 2022 NBA Trade Deadline

[VCfor3]

Ben Simmons makes to much for me to be interested. He might be a good defender but he will be paid up to $40m per season in the final year of his contract.

Does Matisse Thybulle interest us?

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I feel like Thybulle will take an overpay to get.

The most likely Simmons to Atlanta deal I think is if Portland decides to move Dame and wants a rebuilding package. Dame to Philly, Simmons to Atlanta, your rebuilding package to Portland plus Maxey and picks from Philly. What it would take in such a package I'm not sure. Boston, Min, and Sac would likely be trying to bid against you and who knows what NOP might try. But adding Simmons to your core via picks/Cam/prospects instead of moving a true core guy is the only way I really like it for you guys. If you can accomplish that then maybe Simmons solves a lot of your issues. He could really help elevate your defense and could handle PG duties when Trae is off the floor.

[Spud2nique]

My guess for trade targets:

Defensive players under contract from bottom feeder teams -- and a backup PG.

• Pascal Siakam
• Jerami Grant
• Ben Simmons
• Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
• Derrick White
• Thaddeus Young
• Keldon Johnson
• Marcus Smart
• Jaylen Brown

I like Smart and Brown but hate directly dealing with the Celts.

[Spud2nique]

My guess for trade targets:

Defensive players under contract from bottom feeder teams -- and a backup PG.

• Pascal Siakam
• Jerami Grant
• Ben Simmons
• Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
• Derrick White
• Thaddeus Young
• Keldon Johnson
• Marcus Smart
• Jaylen Brown

I got Jarred Vanderbilt. He defends well.

[jayu70]

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[tbhawksfan1]

How can anyone see what BS did last playoffs and since then and want to trade assets for him? When you consider his huge salary, limitations and history, I wouldn't give much. Gallo and that's about it. His documented meltdowns, lack of development, mega diva status and all the money he's owed just pump all the value out.

There's also the fit. Who do we trade? Can he play with Capela, JC? Where does he play?

I really don't mind people throwing ideas out there, but I would really like for them to address some of the fit and cost realities when they propose to bring someone in and ship out part of our team.

On the trade board if you don't give "reasons"... meaning fit and plausibility your thread is locked. If you're going to propose trades at least put in the effort to propose a trade and to justify it...please

[jayu70]

How can anyone see what BS did last playoffs and since then and want to trade assets for him? When you consider his huge salary, limitations and history, I wouldn't give much. Gallo and that's about it. His documented meltdowns, lack of development, mega diva status and all the money he's owed just pump all the value out.

There's also the fit. Who do we trade? Can he play with Capela, JC? Where does he play?

I really don't mind people throwing ideas out there, but I would really like for them to address some of the fit and cost realities when they propose to bring someone in and ship out part of our team.

On the trade board if you don't give "reasons"... meaning fit and plausibility your thread is locked. If you're going to propose trades at least put in the effort to propose a trade and to justify it...please

This is not my trade idea, when I do post one...I give a reason. This is just 'reporting'. I don't have access to the article so I cannot post the proposed trade.

[Jamaaliver]

How can anyone see what BS did last playoffs and since then and want to trade assets for him?

tbh, it's all good brother. Be easy, homey.




Ben Simmons was awful in that Atlanta series. But that was a two week span. The years preceding that he was a top player in the league.

He has more All Star Selections, All NBA Selections and All Defense selections than our entire team combined. It makes sense that a team in need of perimeter defense and secondary play-making would consider an elite perimeter defender and PG.

One series doesn't define an entire career...unless you let it.

To be fair...The salary issues are a legit concern. The mental fragility and prima donna behavior are legit concerns.

But from a basketball fit -- Trae and Ben Simmons would be a better version of Steph and Draymond. The best defensive player and the best offensive player on the same team!!!

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[kg01]

Folks are way too down on Simmons. Yes he had bad 4th quarters but he was dominant and unguardable for most of that series, including taking shots at the rim. He had a terrible decision in a moment and folks are acting like he played scared all series. That is not the case.

Is he miscast as a lead 'guard'? Obviously yes, so anyone trading for him is likely not going to ask him to be in that role.

Does he need to shoot when that is the right decision at the time? Again, obviously yes. But we gotta stop acting like the dude was trash. He's a DPOY who can literally defend 1-5. Despite all the snarky reporting/comments, has a high bbiq. Is a high-level passer/playmaker/ball handler.

Why would any team not want that player .... assuming some obvious tweaking is addressed?

[kg01]

Oof, an unholy alliance of @jamallo and kg might've just happened on this Simmons discussion.

Did anyone else get a chill up their spine?

[DirtybirdGA]

Koom- by yah...

[jayu70]

Oof, an unholy alliance of @jamallo and kg might've just happened on this Simmons discussion.

Did anyone else get a chill up their spine?

[jayu70]

Koom- by yah...

[jayu70]

Folks are way too down on Simmons. Yes he had bad 4th quarters but he was dominant and unguardable for most of that series, including taking shots at the rim. He had a terrible decision in a moment and folks are acting like he played scared all series. That is not the case.

Is he miscast as a lead 'guard'? Obviously yes, so anyone trading for him is likely not going to ask him to be in that role.

Does he need to shoot when that is the right decision at the time? Again, obviously yes. But we gotta stop acting like the dude was trash. He's a DPOY who can literally defend 1-5. Despite all the snarky reporting/comments, has a high bbiq. Is a high-level passer/playmaker/ball handler.

Why would any team not want that player .... assuming some obvious tweaking is addressed?

My question to the bolded has been - how WILLING and ACCEPTING would he be to NOT be the lead guard? be a screen setter, rebounder etc. He can easily make plays out of the PnR if he's willing to set the screens.

[Jamaaliver]

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[Spud2nique]

Folks are way too down on Simmons. Yes he had bad 4th quarters but he was dominant and unguardable for most of that series, including taking shots at the rim. He had a terrible decision in a moment and folks are acting like he played scared all series. That is not the case.

Is he miscast as a lead 'guard'? Obviously yes, so anyone trading for him is likely not going to ask him to be in that role.

Does he need to shoot when that is the right decision at the time? Again, obviously yes. But we gotta stop acting like the dude was trash. He's a DPOY who can literally defend 1-5. Despite all the snarky reporting/comments, has a high bbiq. Is a high-level passer/playmaker/ball handler.

Why would any team not want that player .... assuming some obvious tweaking is addressed?

Wait I just read this, deja vu.. oh Jam echo but I’m starting to follow in line, you both haven’t said anything false, having said that I can’t stress this enough, I HATE guys that can’t shoot. I mean maybe my center like Capela, but Simmons wouldn’t be our center, then again Draymond stinks at shooting but not nearly as bad as Ben.

[Spud2nique]

Oof, an unholy alliance of @jamallo and kg might've just happened on this Simmons discussion.

Did anyone else get a chill up their spine?

Ha! Funny I felt a chill as well! He woo’d both us? Why kind of a sick game..

[Spud2nique]

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Ok Jaylen Brown is Spud’s guy (talking in 3rd person; I’m my own guy) and Jam and cagey gots Ben.

I’ll take the both of you on.

Jaylen>Ben

[Geaux_Hawks]

Folks are way too down on Simmons. Yes he had bad 4th quarters but he was dominant and unguardable for most of that series, including taking shots at the rim. He had a terrible decision in a moment and folks are acting like he played scared all series. That is not the case.

Is he miscast as a lead 'guard'? Obviously yes, so anyone trading for him is likely not going to ask him to be in that role.

Does he need to shoot when that is the right decision at the time? Again, obviously yes. But we gotta stop acting like the dude was trash. He's a DPOY who can literally defend 1-5. Despite all the snarky reporting/comments, has a high bbiq. Is a high-level passer/playmaker/ball handler.

Why would any team not want that player .... assuming some obvious tweaking is addressed?

My question to the bolded has been - how WILLING and ACCEPTING would he be to NOT be the lead guard? be a screen setter, rebounder etc. He can easily make plays out of the PnR if he's willing to set the screens.

I do remember watching some Philly games where he is used as a roll guy quite often. The video below shows how terrifying he can be in such situations and mostly highlights what you're asking. I think he would probably prefer being utilized this way to help showcase and maximize his offensive impact other than just setting the table for others. If anything, he'd probably enjoy just simply watching someone else handled that load.

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[VCfor3]

I think Trae and Simmons could pair well. Simmons is good in the regular season and come playoffs is okay offensively for three quarters and elite defensively for four. Trae is who you want with the ball anyway at the end of the game so tell Simmons to look for dunks or just pass the ball with no pressure to make anything happen. He would likely be good in the non-Trae minutes to keep the team afloat throughout the game and then Trae brings you home when it matters aka when Simmons gets in his own head. Hopefully a new start and not having the pressure to make stuff happen in the fourth can get his mental issues straightened out enough for him to be really good for you guys. Not saying he should be your top target, but if your FO does trade for him I think Atlanta is one of the places he could do well.