Cam Reddish: NBA Vagabond

Post #1 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:29 pm

Post #2 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:32 pm

Skybox · Post #3 » by **Skybox** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:42 pm

Uggh...can't believe you didn't get more for Cam. All I can surmise is that his agency is looking for a stupid extension - and that limited interested targets.

tbhawksfan1 · Post #4 » by **tbhawksfan1** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:45 pm

Wow, very disappointed with this deal. Terrible protections on the CHA pick. Looks like Schlenk's worst move.

WOnder if there was some problem with Cam's attitude because it looks like they just dumped for a steaming pile of nothing

Galloisdaman · Post #5 » by **Galloisdaman** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:47 pm

I think Cam is worth more BUT I graded it a C because he is going to need a new contract. If the Hawks knew they can not match what he wanted then it makes sense to make him available. I would hope that the Hawks did their due diligence and that the Knicks offer was the best available.

tbhawksfan1 · Post #6 » by **tbhawksfan1** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:49 pm

Just for discussion sake. Two votes for C...care to explain? I think the FRP has a top 22 protection or something terrible like that, slowly decending to like top 16 then 2 seconds. I guess we'll be lucky to get a late teen pick in a year or two. We also threw in a SRP

tbhawksfan1 · Post #7 » by **tbhawksfan1** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:51 pm

The General Board is patting the Knicks on the back for hosing us....

Skybox · Post #8 » by **Skybox** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:59 pm

right now, it would be #20...it is protected 2022 first round draft pick from Charlotte
Charlotte's 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-18 in 2022, 1-16 in 2023, 1-14 in 2024 and 1-14 in 2025; if Charlotte has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2025, then Charlotte will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick and 2027 2nd round draft pick to New York

tbhawksfan1 · Post #9 » by **tbhawksfan1** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:01 pm

So it looks like the FRP could come this offseason at #19 right now. Just seems like a move that makes us weaker in the present. Schlenk didn't even get a useful player back.

Are we even trying to make the playoffs at this point?

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #10 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:11 pm

I believe this is a precursor to a bigger deal, potentially Simmons and if this pick is the deciding factor/asset that helps towards a Simmons deal you do it 10/10 so I wont personally grade this deal until AFTER the deadline.

Galloisdaman · Post #11 » by **Galloisdaman** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:24 pm

tbhawksfan1 wrote:Just for discussion sake. Two votes for C...care to explain? I think the FRP has a top 22 protection or something terrible like that, slowly decending to like top 16 then 2 seconds. I guess we'll be lucky to get a late teen pick in a year or two. We also threw in a SRP

I voted C. I think Cam is the best player in the deal so the Knicks win in that regard. I think Cam was going to need a new deal. Speculation it was more than the Hawks thought he was worth. The Hawks shopped him around looking for a mid 1st pick. The Lakers and Indy were interested but apparently this was the best deal the Hawks could get. I guess the Hawks could have held on to Cam and hoped that the market would improve but they can only trade for what other teams are willing to offer.

tbhawksfan1 · Post #12 » by **tbhawksfan1** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:32 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:
tbhawksfan1 wrote:Just for discussion sake. Two votes for C...care to explain? I think the FRP has a top 22 protection or something terrible like that, slowly decending to like top 16 then 2 seconds. I guess we'll be lucky to get a late teen pick in a year or two. We also threw in a SRP

I voted C. I think Cam is the best player in the deal so the Knicks win in that regard. I think Cam was going to need a new deal. Speculation it was more than the Hawks thought he was worth. The Hawks shopped him around looking for a mid 1st pick. The Lakers and Indy were interested but apparently this was the best deal the Hawks could get. I guess the Hawks could have held on to Cam and hoped that the market would improve but they can only trade for what other teams are willing to offer.

Yeah, I get all that. Just wonder about how it affects this season. I mean we're supposed to be a win now team.

Maybe it's a precursor to another move....

If it's just a salary move I imagine that he could have waited until the offseason and still been able to get a somewhat similar return

Post #13 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:32 pm

Is it true we’re getting Kevin Knox back in this deal?

Cause I do think he can at least be useful with a real PG on a new team.

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Post #14 » by **HMFFL** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:32 pm

Kevin Knox will do well for us if we can provide him with minutes.

Was Cam just not working out within our locker room?

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Galloisdaman · Post #15 » by **Galloisdaman** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:35 pm

tbhawksfan1 wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:
tbhawksfan1 wrote:Just for discussion sake. Two votes for C...care to explain? I think the FRP has a top 22 protection or something terrible like that, slowly decending to like top 16 then 2 seconds. I guess we'll be lucky to get a late teen pick in a year or two. We also threw in a SRP

I voted C. I think Cam is the best player in the deal so the Knicks win in that regard. I think Cam was going to need a new deal. Speculation it was more than the Hawks thought he was worth. The Hawks shopped him around looking for a mid 1st pick. The Lakers and Indy were interested but apparently this was the best deal the Hawks could get. I guess the Hawks could have held on to Cam and hoped that the market would improve but they can only trade for what other teams are willing to offer.

Yeah, I get all that. Just wonder about how it affects this season. I mean we're supposed to be a win now team.

Maybe it's a precursor to another move....

If it's just a salary move I imagine that he could have waited until the offseason and still been able to get a somewhat similar return

I agree. The timing is the unknown variable. Was there a reason they wanted to make this move now? Did they worry his value would drop? Or that they would not have room for another deal? All we can do is speculate.

Post #16 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:36 pm

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tbhawksfan1 · Post #17 » by **tbhawksfan1** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:45 pm

HMFFL wrote:Kevin Knox will do well for us if we can provide him with minutes.

Was Cam just not working out within our locker room?

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Ummm, I htink Knox was just salary filler. It looks like he's going to have trouble getting a second contract unless something radical happens

Post #18 » by **HMFFL** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:51 pm

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jayu70 · Post #19 » by **jayu70** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:16 pm

Rumor/Talk around town:

The Reddish camp was adamant at exploring his trade value and Reddish was calling for opportunities to showcase his abilities (to perhaps increase his value). This led to some sloppy inefficient play and rubbed some teammates the wrong way (behind closed doors talk).

Post #20 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:46 pm

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The first-round pick is the key acquisition for the Hawks, giving general manager Travis Schlenk an increased asset in his arsenal to use in trades as he actively looks to make improvements to a team whose sluggish start comes after a trip to the Eastern Conference finals last season.

Charlotte's first-round pick is protected through the top 18 in 2022, the top 16 in 2023, and the top 14 in 2024 and 2025. It becomes two second-round picks if not conveyed before 2026.

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