Which AS caliber big man should Hawks look to build around?

[Mauro Pedrosa]

Ben Simmons would be an interesting fit, if his mindset was right

[jayu70]

But if we could get Rudy here, we become Lob City East!!

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Until the playoffs start.

[Jamaaliver]

But if we could get Rudy here, we become Lob City East!!

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Until the playoffs start.

Not sure I follow.

Can Gobert not catch alley oops in the postseason?

[jayu70]

But if we could get Rudy here, we become Lob City East!!

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Until the playoffs start.

Not sure I follow.

Can Gobert not catch alley oops in the postseason?

The part about 24 points a game.

[Jamaaliver]

Scouting report on Gobert:

This is what Gobert can and can’t do offensively.

He is maybe the best screener in the league, and he’s gotten Mitchell a ton of open looks because of that. He’s such a good screener that Snyder based his offense around Gobert’s ability to do just that. He’s a terrific lob threat and an elite finisher above the rim. Once he catches, he dunks or he gets fouled. His gravity as a roll threat down the lane created some of the best spacing in the league in Utah, which allowed the Jazz to have the best offense in the league two years ago.

What he can’t do is punish a switch by posting and finishing. Not at a playoff level. And that’s one of the things that have sunk the Jazz in the last three or four seasons in the playoffs. They run into a team (James Harden-led Houston Rockets, Los Angeles Clippers, Dallas Mavericks) that switches everything, and it kills Utah’s offense in that series. It’s his one weakness and it’s been fatal to the Jazz over the years [mainly because they] had one elite playoff-level isolation creator.

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[D21]

Ben Simmons would be an interesting fit, if his mindset was right

Exactly, because it's what ATL need first: a guy who can stop scorers.
Improving the C spot is not a priority, it's already a dominant spot with the PG spot.

They don't need Gobert or Ayton more than they need a guy like Simmons.
And if you want Simmons who can't shoot 3s, then to balance that, a change on the C spot has to be made for one that can shoot 3s, so a guy like Turner that IND is now ready to trade.

I really like Gobert, and would be happy for him if he could play with a passing PG like Trae, but it's not what ATL need, especially for this money/assets to send in the trade.

Loosing all that for Gobert will make it harder to fix the main problem of ATL

At this moment, everybody is underestimating Capela and Collins impact on the game, people are fooled by the first round Vs MIA where they were injured.
Both guys should have been All-Star at least one (more) time in the last years, instead of guys some people would trade for like Vucevic, Lavine,... who have no defense like them.

Instead of getting more defense at C with Gobert, or more offense at C with Ayton, we need more defense at SG/SF

Just one more number I found in favor of Turner: he's second in the league at Block per foul with .992
Gobert is 6th at .738 (don't get me wrong, Gobert is a far better defender than Turner), Capela 14th at .567 and... Ayton is 67th at .284

Having Turner (only 26 years old) and keeping Okongwu would allow to play like BOS play with Horford and Williams, and if Okongwu is the center of the future, trading for Turner will keep more money for Okongwu than doing a S&T for Ayton or trading for Gobert.
And we can play both at the same time.

I'm fearing that ATL management will not do the best thing, I might be wrong, but I will continue to be pretty sure than we can be better with Turner and Simmons than anything starting with trading for Gobert or Ayton, at least to contend next years and the following one.

If they do that, they may need to wait for the next TV deal and a huge increase in salary cap to have enough room to add a great player to Trae/Gobert or Ayton

[Jamaaliver]

One Trade Target for Each NBA Team

Atlanta Hawks: Rudy Gobert

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Rumors of the Atlanta Hawks' interest in acquiring three-time Defensive Player of the Year Rudy Gobert were reportedly overblown, but it's not hard to imagine how he'd help.

Beyond averaging 15.6 points and 2.1 blocks and leading the league in both rebounding (14.7 per game) and field-goal percentage (71.3) last season, Gobert is the league's premier defensive anchor.

For a team that finished 26th in points allowed per 100 possessions last season, that alone should be interesting. Ever since Gobert became the Utah Jazz's starting Center ahead of the 2015-16 season, they've led the league in that number.

Having him on the backline would instantly give Atlanta credibility on that end of the floor. And playing with one of the NBA's best alley-oop creators in Trae Young would make Gobert even more of a weapon on the other end.

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Why a Gobert to the Hawks deal is more likely post-draft

Rudy Gobert has been rumored to the Hawks for months and the results of the draft improves Atlanta’s offer for the 3x DPOY



One point remains, still: the Utah Jazz need to make some moves.

After 3 years of this core group of Mitchell-Gobert-Bogdanovic-Conley, two first-round playoff exits and a demoralizing loss to the Kawhi-less Clippers poises Utah for an altered approach this coming season.

Is that new direction without 3x DPOY and multi-time All-NBA and All-Star Rudy Gobert?

The Chicago Bulls and the Atlanta Hawks are the most oft discussed suitors. Both teams make sense as landing spots for Gobert as Chicago longs for a defensive presence in the middle to compliment their well-rounded guards and wings while Atlanta has an array of players and picks with which to consolidate their roster.

Over the past two weeks, reports also circulated that the Jazz were insisting Patrick Williams of the Bulls and De’Andre Hunter of the Hawks be included in any deal. As expected, those proved to be sticking points as teams weren’t quick to give up on their young, potential-filled wings.

If the sticking point on a deal between the Jazz and Hawks was in fact Hunter, it’s in Atlanta’s best interest to posture as not needing Rudy. Unfortunately for Jazz fans, Utah has tipped their hand too far. It’s widely known the franchise is itching for a return on their star center even if it’s true their ultimately willing to retain him without a suitable deal.

Atlanta is also overplaying their love for Capela, whose struggles and health the past year have been well documented. John Collins was also rumored in the deal and has been a featured member of trade rumors for over two seasons.

In summary, the report may be true on the surface. At the price Utah was asking, Atlanta’s not all that interested. But for a different price, maybe the Hawks are interested again.

In fact, a deal to the Hawks (as unlikely as it may have been) is still MORE likely to occur in the aftermath of the NBA Draft, where the Atlanta Hawks selected AJ Griffin with their 16th pick.

Trade packages for Rudy Gobert without De’Andre Hunter appeared to be structured around Collins + Capela + #16. Prior to the draft, that package felt like a bargain for the future Hall of Famer. However, AJ Griffin was a consensus top 10 pick in mock drafts with some anticipating he could go as high as 6th. With him falling to 16th, suddenly Atlanta’s offer of Collins + #16 and whomever they want for remaining salary not-named De’Andre Hunter appears far more valuable than two days prior.

There’s a chance negotiations could resume, and that the name and face of AJ Griffin in the deal instead of an abstract #16 could grease the wheels on a deal.

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[Jamaaliver]

Wish we had taken a gamble on Wiseman considering how low the cost was to get him...

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[Jamaaliver]

Rebounding, shot blocking and 3-pt shooting, exactly what we need from the Center position right now.

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[HMFFL]

I think it's going to be difficult for us to find an already established AS caliber big man but hopeful to land a gem. I don't know how we're going to go about this.

Maybe things get more clear this off-season.

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[Jamaaliver]

We ready to take a real gamble on greatness?

(We'd be much better equipped to bid on him if we hadn't just shipped off a combined 9 draft picks for Dejounte and Bey.)

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[Jamaaliver]

Called this one:

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Zion would be the dream acquisition.

Kawhi would be a major gamble. Ben Simmons would be too much of a gamble.

KAT would be too expensive.

Siakam is more realistic...and he already has a title. He can play next to Collins or Okongwu and he's a pending Free Agent in a year.

[Jamaaliver]

[D21]

Interesting that they say the first idea is to swap Murray for Siakam, with the only problem being the salary difference.
Murray+Capela works, so maybe building a trade on that, and a chance to get the 13th pick from IND

In case they really don't want to pay the tax, I would still prefer IND and Capela+Murray for Turner as it would lower the payroll by 14M in July (Turner going from 35M now to 21M next season) and maybe finding a way to get the 7th pick

[Jamaaliver]

Take it with that proverbial grain of salt...we can't give up OO in a KAT trade. He's the perfect fit to play beside Towns!!!

(It'd be nice if our juvenile General Manager hadn't given away 9 draft picks over the past year on mediocre players.)

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[jayu70]

Take it with that proverbial grain of salt...we can't give up OO in a KAT trade. He's the perfect fit to play beside Towns!!!

I would not give up OO either.

[D21]

First, I would not send OO, and this trade is not balanced at all. If Murray didn't lose value, is worth 3 mid-1st rnd picks. OO was drafted 6th and is better than expected, so is worth a top 5 protected 1st rnd pick, and same for Griffin with lottery protected.
Do KAT be worth 5 1st round pick?...


Even sending the same guy to IND, I bet they agree in a heartbeat and give back Turner+Hield who would make this team better than KAT
I think that if Fields makes this trade for KAT, I will stop following Hawks for years

[Jamaaliver]

NO All Star, but this acquisition shows promise.

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[Jamaaliver]

Hmmmmmmmmmm

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[Jamaaliver]

Zion using all that embarrassment this summer as motivation to finally get his act together...