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Marc Stein: Hawks still interested in Jerami Grant 

Post#1 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Jun 7, 2022 12:03 pm

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The Atlanta Hawks are reportedly among the teams expected to pursue Detroit Pistons forward Jerami Grant in a trade this offseason.

Marc Stein reported the Pistons "have not firmly declared that they are 100 percent moving" Grant, though he's expected to generate significant interest over the summer.

The Hawks finished a disappointing 43-39 during the regular season before losing in the first round of the playoffs to the Miami Heat. They were coming off a surprising Eastern Conference Finals appearance the year prior and went all-in on talent retention but took a major step back.

Adding Grant could bolster Atlanta's perimeter defense and provide a secondary scorer next to Trae Young, who is often burdened with shouldering too much of the offensive load.

What the Hawks would be willing to give up in a Grant trade may determine whether they're serious suitors. A package of Danillo Gallinari and the No. 16 pick in June's draft would work under the salary cap but would likely fall well short of the Pistons' expectations, especially given how they still value Grant.

The Hawks could also add 2021 first-round pick Jalen Johnson or center Onyeka Okungwu in talks, though Okungwu emerged as a valuable reserve last season. They might not be willing to attach first-round picks beyond 2022 in any trade for Grant, who is playing on an expiring contract and may seek an extension as part of trade talks.

The Portland Trail Blazers have long been considered the top contender for Grant. Blazers star Damian Lillard and Grant have a friendship dating back to their Team USA days, and Portland essentially gutted its roster this season in an effort to rebuild around Lillard this summer.

If it comes down to a bidding war, Portland likely has the young talent, picks and motivation to pull ahead of the Hawks in talks.
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Re: Marc Stein: Hawks still interested in Jerami Grant 

Post#2 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Jun 7, 2022 12:06 pm

Marc Stein adds fuel to the Atlanta-Jerami Grant interest fire

Whether a deal centered on the No. 16 is enough to convince Detroit remains to be seen

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While the Portland Trail Blazers have been the team mentioned most often to register trade interest in Jerami Grant for the past year, close behind seems to be the Atlanta Hawks. And a new piece from longtime NBA reporter Marc Stein seems to simply add another league whispers log onto the rumor mill fire.

Earlier, we noted a pair of Athletic beat writers, Pistons writer James Edwards III and Hawks writer Chris Kirschner discussed the trade interest the Atlanta had in Detroit’s two-way forward after the Hawks’ disappointing early exit in the playoffs.

The Hawks, Stein writes, “continue to register trade interest” in Grant. He notes that the Pistons’ asking price is still high and it is unclear if he will be moved at all. And even if the Hawks are interested, there is a chance they still wouldn’t be able to be the top bidder.

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It is not yet clear whether the Hawks can outbid other Detroit suitors, most notably Portland, with a trade offer (presumed to include the No. 16 pick in the forthcoming draft) that finally convinces the Pistons to part with Grant. The Trail Blazers hold the No. 7 selection in the draft and a longstanding interest in the two-way forward.


It does really all come down to the No. 7 pick. That would be a hell of an asset for the Blazers to give up for Grant considering it’d also likely be coupled with committing to the forward on a hefty contract extension.

But the No. 7 pick isn’t the No. 1 pick, and it’s not even the No. 5 pick (duh), so the Blazers might not be clinging to it as tightly as some people think considering they want to seriously remake their team into a competitive playoff team as quickly as possible.

But it’s no slam dunk, and it wouldn’t be a surprise if Grant isn’t moved at all. Even if the Hawks were willing to part with No. 16 and Bojan Bogdonovic as speculated in the Athletic piece, that doesn’t mean the Pistons would automatically say yes.

And for the Hawks to decide that is actually too much to give up is an entirely reasonable take.

My gut tells me the Pistons would like to move Grant for an asset or assets that more perfectly fit their timeline. And while some teams are intent on adding major pieces during an offseason when few players will be available on the FA market, there is no consensus on what Grant is “worth.”

He could net a major asset like the seventh overall pick or he could be wearing a Pistons uniform come opening night with reports indicating no team was willing to give up a first and an expiring for him.
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Re: Marc Stein: Hawks still interested in Jerami Grant 

Post#3 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Jun 7, 2022 12:14 pm

How would a Jerami Grant trade to the Atlanta Hawks look?

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First off, Grant is said to be looking for a four-year, $112 million extension this summer. He’s currently under contract through the 2022-23 season with a cap hit of $20.96 million. That doesn’t seem to be a deterrent for the Hawks.

It also stands to reason that Detroit would demand Atlanta’s first-round pick (16th overall) as part of a package for Grant. That could happen during the draft itself.

As for other pieces headed to Detroit in a potential Jerami Grant trade, Danilo Gallinari would likely be involved to make the salaries work. From there, the Hawks could offer up 2021 first-round pick Jalen Johnson to entice Detroit.

The Pistons have a solid young core group in Cade Cunningham, Saddiq Bey and Isaiah Stewart. Adding another forward to the mix with Bey would make sense.
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Re: Marc Stein: Hawks still interested in Jerami Grant 

Post#4 » by D21 » Tue Jun 7, 2022 1:29 pm

It's always better than including Bogi in the deal like in other proposals, but no way a guy like Grant is worth sending a big expiring/5M guaranteed contract + 2 first round picks + paying him 28M/year

It's just the kind of stupid moves that teams like DET or SAC could have done these last years in the hope to clinch a playoffs berth, but certainly not the kind of move a team wanting to really contender would do.
Do you see MIA doing that, BOS doing that,...? No

I smell it like the same kind of mistakes PHI did with Harris

NOTE: the same website has a proposal for SGA with us sending De’Andre Hunter, Onyeka Okongwu, Danilo Gallinari, 1st-round pick :lol:
And talking about the first-round exit without saying anything about the Clint and John injury to justify the trade... I'm pretty sure the guy writing it didn't even watched one game of this series
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Re: Marc Stein: Hawks still interested in Jerami Grant 

Post#5 » by jayu70 » Tue Jun 7, 2022 1:48 pm

It's the silly season.
Grant is an expiring contract.
He wants to be featured
He wants a hefty pay raise which the Hawks have to be willing to pay or let him walk and get a TPE.

The only way I'm interested in a Bogi+16 for Grant is if Grant signs at least a 2 year extension so he can be come a FA again when the cap is expected to raise significantly. Using #16 on an expiring player is not good asset management.

This so reminds of when Drummond was a FA and the Hawks was initially interested for pick #16 but his FA ask was exhorbitant so the Hawks pivoted to Capela who was signed long term. Drummond eventually was traded for 2nds.
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Re: Marc Stein: Hawks still interested in Jerami Grant 

Post#6 » by D21 » Tue Jun 7, 2022 2:18 pm

For Gallo and 1 first+ 1 second, yes, but certainly not for paying him 28M, and certainly not for Bogi.
If we loose Bogi to add Grant, it's just stupid as trading away the player that had the most impact with Trae it not's a way to build a contender for years.
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Re: Marc Stein: Hawks still interested in Jerami Grant 

Post#7 » by jayu70 » Tue Jun 7, 2022 2:55 pm

D21 wrote:For Gallo and 1 first+ 1 second, yes, but certainly not for paying him 28M, and certainly not for Bogi.
If we loose Bogi to add Grant, it's just stupid as trading away the player that had the most impact with Trae it not's a way to build a contender for years.

Bogi's knee is a real injury concern. It severely impacts his defense.
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Re: Marc Stein: Hawks still interested in Jerami Grant 

Post#8 » by King Ken » Tue Jun 7, 2022 5:02 pm

I hate the idea of Grant in Atlanta. I hope he sticks with the Pistons
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Re: Marc Stein: Hawks still interested in Jerami Grant 

Post#9 » by saloonyk8 » Tue Jun 7, 2022 6:15 pm

Does Gallo + 16 + JJ get it done?

Not sure it's the best offer they'll get but it's decent.... At least we'd have 3 defensive "wings" with Hunter, OO, and Grant. I'm not sure the long term salary with Grant at 28, Collins 25 and Hunter will work. I'm doubting that Hunter will get less than 15 a year.

I'm trying to talk myself into it lol
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Re: Marc Stein: Hawks still interested in Jerami Grant 

Post#10 » by jayu70 » Tue Jun 7, 2022 6:22 pm

saloonyk8 wrote:Does Gallo + 16 + JJ get it done?

Not sure it's the best offer they'll get but it's decent.... At least we'd have 3 defensive "wings" with Hunter, OO, and Grant. I'm not sure the long term salary with Grant at 28, Collins 25 and Hunter will work. I'm doubting that Hunter will get less than 15 a year.

I'm trying to talk myself into it lol

He's an UFA. Parting with too many assets then having to overpay him is a non-starter.
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Re: Marc Stein: Hawks still interested in Jerami Grant 

Post#11 » by CP War Hawks » Tue Jun 7, 2022 7:21 pm

If the Grant trade goes down, Schlenk would probably trade Collins for best pick available. Gonna need to replenish the sg/sf position via draft. Hopefully Gallo is used in a trade somewhere.
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Re: Marc Stein: Hawks still interested in Jerami Grant 

Post#12 » by HMFFL » Wed Jun 8, 2022 1:31 am

CP War Hawks wrote:If the Grant trade goes down, Schlenk would probably trade Collins for best pick available. Gonna need to replenish the sg/sf position via draft. Hopefully Gallo is used in a trade somewhere.
Rumors are saying that Atlanta and Portland are discussing trades to send Jason Collins to Portland for the #7 pick.

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Re: Marc Stein: Hawks still interested in Jerami Grant 

Post#13 » by CP War Hawks » Wed Jun 8, 2022 3:32 am

HMFFL wrote:
CP War Hawks wrote:If the Grant trade goes down, Schlenk would probably trade Collins for best pick available. Gonna need to replenish the sg/sf position via draft. Hopefully Gallo is used in a trade somewhere.
Rumors are saying that Atlanta and Portland are discussing trades to send Jason Collins to Portland for the #7 pick.

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I can't get myself up for a Stein rumor report. With these Hawks they are either super active or super quiet on the trade front. But if the trade goes through and Collins is traded for pick 7, the rotation would look pretty stout.

Trae/Cooper
Huerter/Dyson Daniels
Hunter
Grant/Johnson
Capela/OO
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Re: Marc Stein: Hawks still interested in Jerami Grant 

Post#14 » by jayu70 » Wed Jun 8, 2022 10:21 am

CP War Hawks wrote:
HMFFL wrote:
CP War Hawks wrote:If the Grant trade goes down, Schlenk would probably trade Collins for best pick available. Gonna need to replenish the sg/sf position via draft. Hopefully Gallo is used in a trade somewhere.
Rumors are saying that Atlanta and Portland are discussing trades to send Jason Collins to Portland for the #7 pick.

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I can't get myself up for a Stein rumor report. With these Hawks they are either super active or super quiet on the trade front. But if the trade goes through and Collins is traded for pick 7, the rotation would look pretty stout.

Trae/Cooper
Huerter/Dyson Daniels
Hunter
Grant/Johnson
Capela/OO

All I'm seeing is us getting killed on the boards: Hunter 3 rpg, Grant 4 rpg.... :-?
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Re: Marc Stein: Hawks still interested in Jerami Grant 

Post#15 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jun 8, 2022 1:13 pm

jayu70 wrote:
CP War Hawks wrote:
HMFFL wrote:Rumors are saying that Atlanta and Portland are discussing trades to send Jason Collins to Portland for the #7 pick.

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I can't get myself up for a Stein rumor report. With these Hawks they are either super active or super quiet on the trade front. But if the trade goes through and Collins is traded for pick 7, the rotation would look pretty stout.

Trae/Cooper
Huerter/Dyson Daniels
Hunter
Grant/Johnson
Capela/OO

All I'm seeing is us getting killed on the boards: Hunter 3 rpg, Grant 4 rpg.... :-?


I'm okay with adding Grant to our starting lineup. But he isn't enough of an upgrade over John Collins, who is younger and on a more palatable contract. Grant at SF next to J Collins makes more sense as JG would be a more durable/dependable option over DeAndre Hunter.

(For now)

Capela - Collins - Grant - Bogdan - Trae as starters seems like a 50 win team pretty easily.

And, with better coaching, is equipped to put up a serious fight into the 2nd round of the playoffs. I'd pick that team over Philly or Miami. Honestly not sure about Milwaukee or Boston, though.
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Post#16 » by jayu70 » Wed Jun 8, 2022 2:25 pm

Speaking of Hunter^...
Read on Twitter
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....he has got to stay healthy.
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Re: Marc Stein: Hawks still interested in Jerami Grant 

Post#17 » by CP War Hawks » Wed Jun 8, 2022 5:17 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
jayu70 wrote:
CP War Hawks wrote:
I can't get myself up for a Stein rumor report. With these Hawks they are either super active or super quiet on the trade front. But if the trade goes through and Collins is traded for pick 7, the rotation would look pretty stout.

Trae/Cooper
Huerter/Dyson Daniels
Hunter
Grant/Johnson
Capela/OO

All I'm seeing is us getting killed on the boards: Hunter 3 rpg, Grant 4 rpg.... :-?


I'm okay with adding Grant to our starting lineup. But he isn't enough of an upgrade over John Collins, who is younger and on a more palatable contract. Grant at SF next to J Collins makes more sense as JG would be a more durable/dependable option over DeAndre Hunter.

(For now)

Capela - Collins - Grant - Bogdan - Trae as starters seems like a 50 win team pretty easily.

And, with better coaching, is equipped to put up a serious fight into the 2nd round of the playoffs. I'd pick that team over Philly or Miami. Honestly not sure about Milwaukee or Boston, though.


Hunter will never be good on the boards if he has to shadow the best wing scorer every game. Collins rebounding has gone down to 7.5 a game since Capela came on board.

Dyson is drafted to eventually usurp Huerter and he's a good rebounder. He probably makes Hunter expendable if he thrives at 3. Grant isn't the greatest rebounder but I'd take his intangibles on defense. Scenario is all dependent if they know he's down for a reasonable extension.

The lineup has 4 plus defenders surrounding Trae and 4 ball handlers surrounding Capela. Clint has to stay an elite rebounder to make it all work, like that's his literal worth.
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Re: Marc Stein: Hawks still interested in Jerami Grant 

Post#18 » by HMFFL » Wed Jun 8, 2022 8:58 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
jayu70 wrote:
CP War Hawks wrote:
I can't get myself up for a Stein rumor report. With these Hawks they are either super active or super quiet on the trade front. But if the trade goes through and Collins is traded for pick 7, the rotation would look pretty stout.

Trae/Cooper
Huerter/Dyson Daniels
Hunter
Grant/Johnson
Capela/OO

All I'm seeing is us getting killed on the boards: Hunter 3 rpg, Grant 4 rpg.... :-?


I'm okay with adding Grant to our starting lineup. But he isn't enough of an upgrade over John Collins, who is younger and on a more palatable contract. Grant at SF next to J Collins makes more sense as JG would be a more durable/dependable option over DeAndre Hunter.

(For now)

Capela - Collins - Grant - Bogdan - Trae as starters seems like a 50 win team pretty easily.

And, with better coaching, is equipped to put up a serious fight into the 2nd round of the playoffs. I'd pick that team over Philly or Miami. Honestly not sure about Milwaukee or Boston, though.
50 win team easily if we play inside and make it a dang priority. Let's get a leg up on most teams and stop focusing so much on outside scoring.

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Re: Marc Stein: Hawks still interested in Jerami Grant 

Post#19 » by tbhawksfan1 » Fri Jun 10, 2022 5:52 pm

Grant seems like the best talent available. Got to get him for picks instead of talent though. We need to compete. If #7 is involved, there needs to be a third team taking the pick and giving us a better talent than JC.

We are not in rebuilding mode where we can wait on a rookie to develop
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Post#20 » by HMFFL » Sat Jun 11, 2022 12:14 am

Grant supposedly will provide any team with a defensive boost but I can't trust him to stay healthy. How can one be a defensive presence if their body is so frail? He's not a first, or second option, maybe not even a third.

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