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Espn has been reporting the Raptors have the talent and picks needed to get Durant, but what about the Hawks? Is there no interest in trading for him? Collins, Hunter, Griffin, and Okongwu sounds like a better offer than what the Raps can offer? A trio of Durant, Young, and Murray sounds pretty good and Durant always attracts veteran free agents to join him. Why not have him when he's signed for 4 years?
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He's also signed with Brooklyn for 4 yearsradtech wrote:Espn has been reporting the Raptors have the talent and picks needed to get Durant, but what about the Hawks? Is there no interest in trading for him? Collins, Hunter, Griffin, and Okongwu sounds like a better offer than what the Raps can offer? A trio of Durant, Young, and Murray sounds pretty good and Durant always attracts veteran free agents to join him. Why not have him when he's signed for 4 years?

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I am certain our front office has reached out to his representation to see if he'd consider us.
If he isn't interested in coming here, I would rather focus on more realistic options.
If he isn't interested in coming here, I would rather focus on more realistic options.
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I think only the GSW can make the best offer to the Nets for KD, but i think Hawks can beat out the Heat and Suns in a trade package.
John Collins
Bogdanovic
Hunter
Okongwu
Jalen Johnson
AJ Griffin
Justin Holiday
Any 3 players on the list above plus the Kings' pick could easily beat an Ayton/Bridges package or Herro/Robinson package.
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Millsap
KD
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Trae
John Collins
Bogdanovic
Hunter
Okongwu
Jalen Johnson
AJ Griffin
Justin Holiday
Any 3 players on the list above plus the Kings' pick could easily beat an Ayton/Bridges package or Herro/Robinson package.
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The Murray trade probably took y’all out of contention. Y’all would have had to send a few of those first rounders Brooklyn’s way
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The cost probably would've been Collins, Bogi, Hunter, OO, and 3 unprotected picks and a swap ....
We don't have those picks to throw in and I'm not sure we'd contend with that roster anyway.
The kings pick is not unprotected... It could be 2 second round picks. Doesn't have huge value
We don't have those picks to throw in and I'm not sure we'd contend with that roster anyway.
The kings pick is not unprotected... It could be 2 second round picks. Doesn't have huge value
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DaGawd wrote:The Murray trade probably took y’all out of contention. Y’all would have had to send a few of those first rounders Brooklyn’s way
We could still send our 2023 FRP along with the 2024 we just picked up from the Kings. Those two picks and something around JC+OO would at least have to get us into consideration. They might demand Hunter too, but KD is actually locked up for longer than DH right now. There's no guarantee DH comes back next offseason.
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We don't have an all-star that we would include in any trade for Durant. I suppose our young talent won't be enough of a foundation piece even if we included enough first round picks.
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After the Nets fiasco, I can't believe that poeple want to sell the farm for a 34 year old who couldn't win with a Harden, Kyrie, Durant super team
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HMFFL wrote:We don't have an all-star that we would include in any trade for Durant. I suppose our young talent won't be enough of a foundation piece even if we included enough first round picks.
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It doesn't matter because the Suns and Heat don't have any all stars to trade either.
Suns and Heat will only have low first round picks in the high 20s or 30s which are not good spots. its better to have high 2nd round picks than the #30 pick in the draft.
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The only all stars that might be available to the Nets would be Darius Garland, or LaMelo Ball
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Depends when the picks are...I would take Phoenix picks in 2026, 27, 28.... With a swap in middle... No Chris Paul no KD, they're not getting FA, owning their drafts has value
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What's JC and Hunter player rankings? I'm guessing JC is borderline top 50 and Hunter maybe top 70.
If I'm the Nets I gotta do better than that. Bam is top 20. Siakam top 25. Ayton probably top 40 with his age etc. Bridges is top 30 probably as he was almost DPOY
If I'm the Nets I gotta do better than that. Bam is top 20. Siakam top 25. Ayton probably top 40 with his age etc. Bridges is top 30 probably as he was almost DPOY
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saloonyk8 wrote:What's JC and Hunter player rankings? I'm guessing JC is borderline top 50 and Hunter maybe top 70.
If I'm the Nets I gotta do better than that. Bam is top 20. Siakam top 25. Ayton probably top 40 with his age etc. Bridges is top 30 probably as he was almost DPOY
JC is better than top50, it's ATL system since Capela is here that leads him to not be All-Star. He should already had been at least one time, instead of guy doing nothing on defense like Vucevic.
Like if Capela was the second scoring option, getting more 8FGA per game, he would have been All-Star
Hunter was good the previous season and not good this season, so his value is lower than one year ago.
Ayton is certainly not Top40 at this moment. He will improve, but he's not at this moment, most are overvaluing him.
During the playoffs, the defense was 8pts better on 100 possessions without Ayton (but offense was 9pts better with him)
In regular season, the defense was 3.4pts better on 100 possessions without Ayton (but offense was 6.6pts better with him)
A lot lower than Paul, Bridges Crowder and Booker in regular season, and then Paul and Bridges in the playoffs (Crowder and Booker had negative numbers in the playoffs)
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He would be a excellent pickup. Instantly makes the Hawks championship contenders.
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Thoughts on selling the farm system for one of the top 5 players on the planet?
Since KD is under contract for 3+ years, if he's on board with cominghere, I'd be all for it.
We'd have to already be in communication with a long term coaching solution though. Probably any one of D'Antoni, Quin Snyder or Frank Vogel.
Since KD is under contract for 3+ years, if he's on board with cominghere, I'd be all for it.
We'd have to already be in communication with a long term coaching solution though. Probably any one of D'Antoni, Quin Snyder or Frank Vogel.
Bleacher ReportKevin Durant Completes Hawks Big 3....
Atlanta Hawks Receive: F Kevin Durant
Brooklyn Nets Receive: F/C John Collins, F De'Andre Hunter, C Onyeka Okongwu, F AJ Griffin, 2023, 2024 (via Sacramento Kings) and 2029 first-round picks
Why the Hawks Say Yes
Because this is Kevin freaking Durant.
Look, getting Dejounte Murray from the San Antonio Spurs via trade was a good start, but this is still a lower-level playoff seed in the East that needs another star. With a core of Durant, Trae Young and Murray, the Hawks become a true title contender.
Defenses can't double-team Young anymore when one of the greatest scorers in NBA history is on the court with him. While Durant will do his share of the ball-handling, he's lethal as a spot-up shooter playing off of Young and Murray as well.
A starting lineup of Young, Murray, Justin Holiday, Durant and Clint Capela is among the NBA's best, especially with Bogdan Bogdanovic as a sixth man.
The Hawks go from an improved team with Murray to a potential championship favorite with Durant.
Why the Nets Say Yes
While Atlanta had to give up three-first-round picks to get Murray, they had two in 2023 to begin with and recently acquired a 2024 first from the Sacramento Kings in the Kevin Huerter trade. This gives the Hawks three tradeable first-rounders along with a roster full of talented young players to offer the Nets.
Players like Collins (16.2 points, 7.8 rebounds, 52.6 percent shooting) and Hunter (13.4 points, 37.9 percent from thee) help Brooklyn stay competitive now and are only getting better at age 24.
Okongwu, the No. 6 overall pick in 2020, has elite defensive potential, and Griffin could end up being the best three-point shooter in the 2022 draft class.
Getting three first-rounders gives Brooklyn tons of flexibility moving forward, while the incoming talent prevents this team from entering a rebuild.
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I would just give up Collins, Hunter, and 1 pick. Maybe add Johnson, but thats it.