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Game Thread: Hawks host Hornets -- 10/23

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:12 pm
by Jamaaliver
The Charlotte Hopes to contain Collins, Capela

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The Hornets head to Atlanta with a 1-1 record after administering a beatdown to the San Antonio Spurs on Wednesday night to kick off the new season then falling on Friday to the New Orleans Pelicans. The matchup against the Hawks on the road will be a tough one with LaMelo Ball still nursing an ankle injury.

Atlanta Hawks overview
In many ways the Hawks represent what the Hornets wish they were in that Atlanta’s a young-ish, competitive team on the rise. Both the Hornets and the Hawks are building around superstar point guards, but Atlanta has cracked the code of assembling roster depth and quality coaching while Charlotte is still laboring to get there. The result is Atlanta has made the playoffs in each of the last two seasons, including a surprising run to the Eastern Conference Finals two years ago, while the Hornets keep getting bounced in the play-in tournament.

How the Hornets can win
Through two games the Hornets appear to have more bench depth than many anticipated after getting solid play from Nick Richards (12.5 points, 8.0 rebounds per game) and Dennis Smith Jr. (11.0 points, 4.0 assists, 2.5 steals). Gordon Hayward is healthy and has started the season hot averaging 23.0 points and 4.5 assists on a blistering 60% from the field. Nick Richards’ emergence, Dennis Smith’s productivity, and Gordon Hayward’s mere presence make the Hornets a fairly deep, potent team, even without LaMelo Ball.

While containing Trae Young is the easy go-to answer for beating the Hawks, I’m going to highlight the need for the Hornets to clamp down on Atlanta’s big men John Collins and Clint Capela, especially keeping them off the glass. Getting big rebounding games from Mason Plumlee, PJ Washington, and Nick Richards will be key in preventing second chance points from a Hawks team that can score in waves. In the Hornets last game center Jonas Valancinuas annihilated Charlotte in the post with 30 points and 17 boards. The Hornets have to do better down low against the Hawks.

Atlanta has distanced itself from the Hornets in the Eastern Conference standings over the last couple of seasons. We’ll see tonight if the Hornets have made any progress in closing that gap with their Southeast division rival.
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Re: Game Thread: Hawks host Hornets -- 10/23

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:22 pm
by Jamaaliver
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Re: Game Thread: Hawks host Hornets -- 10/23

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:32 pm
by Jamaaliver
I looked in during 1Q and saw Hawks leading 22-9.

What the hell happened afterward?

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Re: Game Thread: Hawks host Hornets -- 10/23

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:44 pm
by Jamaaliver
Ths will be the major flaw all season long for Atlanta. Hawks desperately need AJ Griffin and Bogdan Bogdan to play themselves into game shape ASAP.

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Re: Game Thread: Hawks host Hornets -- 10/23

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:17 am
by D21
Jamaaliver wrote:Ths will be the major flaw all season long for Atlanta. Hawks desperately need AJ Griffin and Bogdan Bogdan to play themselves into game shape ASAP.


I prefer that Bogi takes the necessary time, I don't want to see this season players being injured again because of coming back to soon.
Thinking we need both hitting threes ASAP is just showing that Nate is coaching badly:
John and DJ at 38 minutes ? After three games, Murray is averaging 39min/game, Trae and John 36... what is this?
Does he want to injure them?

And in this game, John taking 7 three pts and only 5 two points shots?
The first two games, he took 10 two points shots per game, and 2 and 4 three pts shots

Re: Game Thread: Hawks host Hornets -- 10/23

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:38 am
by CP War Hawks
Yeah they need to improve the outside shooting, but you can't give up 126to the Hornets w/o Ball and Bridges in regulation. They have the easiest first 5 game stretch out of all teams and need to finish 4-1. Who in the hell is letting Richards go off with a perfect 9-9?

Re: Game Thread: Hawks host Hornets -- 10/23

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:01 pm
by jayu70
D21 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:Ths will be the major flaw all season long for Atlanta. Hawks desperately need AJ Griffin and Bogdan Bogdan to play themselves into game shape ASAP.


I prefer that Bogi takes the necessary time, I don't want to see this season players being injured again because of coming back to soon.
Thinking we need both hitting threes ASAP is just showing that Nate is coaching badly:
John and DJ at 38 minutes ? After three games, Murray is averaging 39min/game, Trae and John 36... what is this?
Does he want to injure them?

And in this game, John taking 7 three pts and only 5 two points shots?
The first two games, he took 10 two points shots per game, and 2 and 4 three pts shots

Nate needs to incorporate AJ into the rotation with Bogi out - 5points and 2 steals in his short stint in the 4th then of course Nate took him out. Let him play as long as he's having success.
Bogi is still limited to just shooting drills, no actual practice - if I had to guess, I'll say we see Bogi around Christmas.
I don't like when we start off JC on the perimeter, let him work inside then move out.

Re: Game Thread: Hawks host Hornets -- 10/23

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:59 am
by D21
The main problem is that they should be better with this C rotation of Okongwu/Capela, but on these 3 games, they have been bad with Capela.
Next, Bogi missing, but if we want to have him until the end of the season, better not rush him to come back
And... this team was good last season with Wright, Huerter and Gallo, but they are all gone

The easiest stat that shows it: Net rating

These 3 games: yes, he can play Griffin more, bad with Capela, and even more with both Holiday and Johnson
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Last season: we had a good bench, and the starters were underperforming, except Capela. The opposite of this season
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