Hawks vs Celtics: Episode Four -- A New Hope

Post #1 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:29 pm

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jayu70 · Post #2 » by **jayu70** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:57 pm

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Our starting backcourt is holding their own....need the front court to join the party.
Hopefully the bench we have seen under Quin continues to contribute.
Let's Go Hawks!

Post #3 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:06 pm

Everyone is at full strength tonight.

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atlantabbq99 · Post #4 » by **atlantabbq99** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:52 pm

As long as the Hawks can shoot +35% from three and out rebound the Celtics, and Trae shoots more floaters then 3s, then the game should be competitive and respectable.

atlantabbq99 · Post #5 » by **atlantabbq99** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:13 am

Collins is just trash! this is why i said all the way back in 2020 and 2021 that the Hawks should not overpay Collins and just let him walk or trade him. Collins contract is a franchise killer and his production is that of a scrub!

DM is having an unusual sub par game, but he can still turn it around.

Trae is just cringeworthy when he shoots a three, he is just at Josh Smith level now when he takes a long jump shot

DirtybirdGA · Post #6 » by **DirtybirdGA** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:36 am

Hawks still fckin up...series over.

Post #7 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:57 am

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Post #8 » by **HMFFL** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:58 am

Trae's shooting is just very bad this season. It's shocking how quickly it regressed.

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Post #9 » by **HMFFL** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 1:01 am

Our 4 spot hasn't done anything productive all game.

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Post #10 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 1:10 am

HMFFL wrote:Our 4 spot hasn't done anything productive all game.

With Okongwu struggling with fouls, I wish Quin would put Collins in at the 5 spot so he can feast on all those bunnies and alley oops they keep spoon feeding Capela. Put hot hand Hunter and S Bey at the forward spots.

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Post #11 » by **HMFFL** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 1:28 am

Jamaaliver wrote:
HMFFL wrote:Our 4 spot hasn't done anything productive all game.

With Okongwu struggling with fouls, I wish Quin would put Collins in at the 5 spot so he can feast on all those bunnies and alley oops they keep spoon feeding Capela. Put hot hand Hunter and S Bey at the forward spots.

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And if Bey and Hunter are hitting their shots that lineup coups be what we need. Because right now we're getting anything.

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jayu70 · Post #12 » by **jayu70** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 3:35 am

Besides Trae and Dre.....Nothing from CC/JC and limited bench impact.

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jayu70 · Post #13 » by **jayu70** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 3:36 am

If this is what JC is giving us....
John Collins in the 2022-23 Playoffs:

7.5 Points
5.0 Rebounds
1.0 Assist
35.8% FG
16.9% 3P

.....give JJ more minutes.

King Ken · Post #14 » by **King Ken** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:37 am

Trae been playing tremendous in the last two games. Shots are going to fall or miss but elite decision making is what I want from him

Post #15 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:14 pm

jayu70 wrote:If this is what JC is giving us....
John Collins in the 2022-23 Playoffs:

7.5 Points
5.0 Rebounds
1.0 Assist
35.8% FG
16.9% 3P

.....give JJ more minutes.

Sadly, Boston was completely ignoring JJ on offense early in the series, daring him to shoot 3s. And he couldn't connect enough to make them pay.

We missed a guy like Gallinari in this series -- a vet who can get buckets and space the floor.

Post #16 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:50 pm

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DirtybirdGA · Post #17 » by **DirtybirdGA** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 1:34 pm

Hawks are so lame.

Post #18 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 2:18 pm

DirtybirdGA wrote:Hawks are so lame.

Sadly, we've been this way for most of the past 30 years. :cry:

atlantabbq99 · Post #19 » by **atlantabbq99** » Mon Apr 24, 2023 6:01 pm

jayu70 wrote:If this is what JC is giving us....
John Collins in the 2022-23 Playoffs:

7.5 Points
5.0 Rebounds
1.0 Assist
35.8% FG
16.9% 3P

.....give JJ more minutes.

And this is at $25 million a year!!! Collins b!tches for years about a contract, and then when the Hawks are dumb enough to pay him, Collins shows that he is a beta!

I knew it all the way back in the Bucks' series that Collins wasn't an alpha and just a fake basketball player.

Collins is basically the new Vin Baker..... Hawks will have to add a 1st round pick just to dumb Collin's contract! :banghead:

D21 · Post #20 » by **D21** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:02 am

atlantabbq99 wrote:
jayu70 wrote:If this is what JC is giving us....
John Collins in the 2022-23 Playoffs:

7.5 Points
5.0 Rebounds
1.0 Assist
35.8% FG
16.9% 3P

.....give JJ more minutes.

And this is at $25 million a year!!! Collins b!tches for years about a contract, and then when the Hawks are dumb enough to pay him, Collins shows that he is a beta!

I knew it all the way back in the Bucks' series that Collins wasn't an alpha and just a fake basketball player.

Collins is basically the new Vin Baker..... Hawks will have to add a 1st round pick just to dumb Collin's contract!

Yet, he has the second best Net rating Vs BOS, just behind Bogi...
Does a contract should be based on individual offensive stats? No, on offense and defense, and he has the best defensive Net rating of this team, by far, really by far in this series

And it's easy to see when watching the game.
Just gives the same poor offensive plays he gets and the same number of shots to any PF in the league, and let see if one looks like deserving 125/5yrs by looking at Points, Rebounds, Assist, FG and 3FG

I'm not saying it's a sure thing he's worth his contract, just that they decided to play without including him as an offensive option, so we can say anything about his offensive production, there's no offense for him.