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Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread

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Whta direction should Quin and Landry go in?

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Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread 

Post#1 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:33 pm

Season's over...now it's time for the front office to get to work.

Team has already changed GMs and Head Coaches. Now Quin needs to fill out his coaching staff, scout players for the draft and decide which players need to be moved this offseason.

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Re: Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread 

Post#2 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:19 pm

Hawks' Top Trade Targets this Offseason

Patrick Williams, Chicago Bulls

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After unloading so many assets in the Murray deal (three firsts and a swap), Atlanta could be operating with a limited trade budget.

Still, if the Chicago Bulls are anxious to build a winner around Zach LaVine and DeMar DeRozan, maybe Atlanta can exploit that urgency and flip some of its win-now talent for Patrick Williams.

The No. 4 pick in 2020 hasn't exactly stormed out of the gate to open his career, but he's also done nothing to lower his towering two-way ceiling. He could step in and provide the Hawks with perimeter defense and a reliable three-ball, and if the Hawks find a way to up his offensive assertiveness, he could give them so much more.

In other words, he could add something to this squad right now and potentially add more down the line. Since Trae Young is still only 24 years old, the Hawks have a little time to wait on Williams' development.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread 

Post#3 » by atlantabbq99 » Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:21 pm

Hawks need to find a way to dump Collin's contract. Trade away Hunter. Take care of Bey and find away to get Paul Reed and Nick Richards
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Re: Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread 

Post#4 » by CP War Hawks » Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:48 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
Hawks' Top Trade Targets this Offseason

Patrick Williams, Chicago Bulls

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After unloading so many assets in the Murray deal (three firsts and a swap), Atlanta could be operating with a limited trade budget.

Still, if the Chicago Bulls are anxious to build a winner around Zach LaVine and DeMar DeRozan, maybe Atlanta can exploit that urgency and flip some of its win-now talent for Patrick Williams.

The No. 4 pick in 2020 hasn't exactly stormed out of the gate to open his career, but he's also done nothing to lower his towering two-way ceiling. He could step in and provide the Hawks with perimeter defense and a reliable three-ball, and if the Hawks find a way to up his offensive assertiveness, he could give them so much more.

In other words, he could add something to this squad right now and potentially add more down the line. Since Trae Young is still only 24 years old, the Hawks have a little time to wait on Williams' development.
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Not sure Bulls are letting go of him, maybe if they blow it up but still should have plenty of suitors. I'd would abolish the salaries of Collins and Hunter for PW. He kind of fits both positions. Starting to get buyers remorse from the DJM deal sadly.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread 

Post#5 » by jayu70 » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:57 pm

Per Steve Koonin on his weekly Friday radio call said....WE NEED A B.A.B.....
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Re: Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread 

Post#6 » by Geaux_Hawks » Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:28 pm

Trading Hunter and Collins should be the first wave of moves being made. Reaccess from there. JJ under Quinn this off-season will at least make Collins expendable. Moving Hunter just makes it easier to give more minutes to Griffin and Bey.

Depending on the return, Clint and/or Murray could potentially be moved. I doubt Murray will be, and I think Capela would stick around at least another year because we lack any real size inside without him. Veteran presence and influence is another thing. OO's emergence this year helps in moving on from Clint, if that came to pass though. I'd want a big body off the bench at least.

The Bogi extension was a bit unusual, as I thought Griffin was drafted to be his replacement at minimum. Bogi isn't killing us, but would we be better served trading Bogi now and extending Bey at the same price later?

We''re still a very young team. We just need to reshuffle what's considered the core. Trae's fast track to stardom really forced expectations that the first wave of young talent should've developed into stars as well. The reality is, Trae was the only 1 of the initial wave that could reach that level. I'm not saying we have for sure stars in the 2nd wave of guys, but they look a lot more promising at least(OO, AJ, JJ).
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Re: Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread 

Post#7 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Apr 29, 2023 5:26 pm

Geaux_Hawks wrote: JJ under Quinn this off-season will at least make Collins expendable. Moving Hunter just makes it easier to give more minutes to Griffin and Bey.

...OO's emergence this year helps in moving on from Clint, if that came to pass though.

...I'm not saying we have for sure stars in the 2nd wave of guys, but they look a lot more promising at least(OO, AJ, JJ).




I would simply advise, don't get too attached to any of these young guys either. They were drafted by a different GM, for a different coach running a different system.

Everything is up in the air right now.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread 

Post#8 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Apr 29, 2023 5:33 pm

Damaged/overpriced stars I could see us pursuing this summer:

Paul George
Klay Thompson
KAT
Zion
Rudy Gobert
Khris Middleton
Pascal Siakam
Kristaps Porzingis
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Re: Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread 

Post#9 » by jayu70 » Sat Apr 29, 2023 7:25 pm

Guaranteed Contracts: $162 million
1. Trae
2. DJ (extension eligible for up to 140% of current contract)
3. Dre
4. JC
5. CC
6. Bogi
7. OO (extension eligible)
8. JJ
9. Bey (extension eligible)
10. AJ
11. Bruno

Unguaranteed Contracts: $12 million
11.  Vit
12. Tyrese
14. Garrison

Free Agent: Aaron Holiday

​​​Two-Way Players: 

Trent Forest and Donovan Williams

2 Picks: #15 and #46
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Re: Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread 

Post#10 » by HMFFL » Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:45 pm

$46m between John Collins and De'Andre Hunter does concerns me. De'Andre Hunter possibly showed our front office in the playoffs that he eventually can evolve his game. I just haven't seen enough positive things from him.

OO not being a three point threat concerns me. He's possibly set to make $20m or more per season once he's extended. He wasn't impressive with the minutes he did play against Boston. I hope he continues to develop his jumper and overall game this off-season.

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Re: Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread 

Post#11 » by Geaux_Hawks » Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:46 pm

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Geaux_Hawks wrote: JJ under Quinn this off-season will at least make Collins expendable. Moving Hunter just makes it easier to give more minutes to Griffin and Bey.

...OO's emergence this year helps in moving on from Clint, if that came to pass though.

...I'm not saying we have for sure stars in the 2nd wave of guys, but they look a lot more promising at least(OO, AJ, JJ).




I would simply advise, don't get too attached to any of these young guys either. They were drafted by a different GM, for a different coach running a different system.

Everything is up in the air right now.


No doubt. OO is probably the only one locked in right now imo. I never get attached to players though unless it's a guy that makes absolutely no sense to trade ala Trae Young.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread 

Post#12 » by Jamaaliver » Mon May 1, 2023 4:44 pm

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Re: Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread 

Post#13 » by CP War Hawks » Tue May 2, 2023 10:16 pm

If the Hawks part ways with CC and/or JC, I'd want to look into Reid. I vaguely remember him coming into the combine in poor shape. It looks like the bulb came on for him. Oozes all the versatility the team needs for a big, pause. The guards could get even more out of him at age 24, pause.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread 

Post#14 » by CP War Hawks » Thu May 4, 2023 10:10 pm

With Bud out Lopez is ripe for moving on. I really want to see what a big that's capable of hitting 2+ threes a game does for this offense.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread 

Post#15 » by Geaux_Hawks » Sat May 6, 2023 3:34 pm

CP War Hawks wrote:With Bud out Lopez is ripe for moving on. I really want to see what a big that's capable of hitting 2+ threes a game does for this offense.


Maybe i'm lost here, but why is it so important that we must have a 5 that can shoot 3's? Under Snyder, the offense will be more about ball movement anyway, and doesn't necessarily need a 3 point shooter at the 5. Is it useful to have? Of course, but at what cost?

I ask because whoever is at the 5 needs to be a versatile defender, capable passer, strong rebounder, and possibly be a lob threat. Ideally, this would be someone more in the mold of Kevin Looney. High end, we're talking about Bam due to his playmaking ability and ability to shoot from 16 feet added.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread 

Post#16 » by CP War Hawks » Sat May 6, 2023 10:13 pm

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CP War Hawks wrote:With Bud out Lopez is ripe for moving on. I really want to see what a big that's capable of hitting 2+ threes a game does for this offense.


Maybe i'm lost here, but why is it so important that we must have a 5 that can shoot 3's? Under Snyder, the offense will be more about ball movement anyway, and doesn't necessarily need a 3 point shooter at the 5. Is it useful to have? Of course, but at what cost?

I ask because whoever is at the 5 needs to be a versatile defender, capable passer, strong rebounder, and possibly be a lob threat. Ideally, this would be someone more in the mold of Kevin Looney. High end, we're talking about Bam due to his playmaking ability and ability to shoot from 16 feet added.


Boston has both archetypes in Williams and Horford. The latter has proven more valuable in the playoffs due to his ability to stretch the defense at a high level and the former is getting played off the floor. It's more about having options in the playoffs.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread 

Post#17 » by HMFFL » Sun May 7, 2023 12:26 pm

CP War Hawks wrote:With Bud out Lopez is ripe for moving on. I really want to see what a big that's capable of hitting 2+ threes a game does for this offense.
Milwaukee could be in trouble if Lopez moves on and if Holiday retires. In a perfect world I wish we had both Lopez and Myles Turner from Indiana.

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Re: Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread 

Post#18 » by D21 » Mon May 8, 2023 2:31 am

CP War Hawks wrote:Boston has both archetypes in Williams and Horford. The latter has proven more valuable in the playoffs due to his ability to stretch the defense at a high level and the former is getting played off the floor. It's more about having options in the playoffs.

HMFFL wrote:Milwaukee could be in trouble if Lopez moves on and if Holiday retires. In a perfect world I wish we had both Lopez and Myles Turner from Indiana.


Exactly, to make as much adjustments as needed, it's better to have the highest number of options possible, and this not the case with Capela+Okongwu
Keeping one of them, with Lopez or Turner, would already provide far more options
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Re: Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread 

Post#19 » by Jamaaliver » Tue May 9, 2023 7:58 pm

tbhawksfan1 wrote:Easy for you guys to clown my proposals, but where is your superstar we about to trade for? and I'll remind all of ya'll that I said that I don't want to trade Trae


Sounds like Anunoby and/or Siakam could be gotten. Perfect complements to Trae and what this team needs.

It'll likely cost us Dejounte, Bogdan, AJ Griffin and/or Okongwu.

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Re: Atlanta Hawks 2023 Offseason Thread 

Post#20 » by CP War Hawks » Tue May 9, 2023 8:43 pm

It's been floated in the trade board DJM for OG straight up. I mean I'm down, makes both teams better with needs and fit. Lopez being 1st team all defense surprised me, his salary likely exceeds the full MLE now.

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