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Game Thread: QuinHawks Host Winless Knicks in Home Opener

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Game Thread: QuinHawks Host Winless Knicks in Home Opener 

Post#1 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:22 pm

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Hawks, Knicks meet in Atlanta after losing openers

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Different types of struggles from the field and similar issues closing out in the fourth quarter Wednesday night have the Atlanta Hawks and New York Knicks in the same position of seeking their first win Friday night, when the Hawks host the Knicks in a meeting of the longtime Eastern Conference rivals.

Both teams were off Thursday after suffering narrow defeats Wednesday night, when the visiting Hawks lost to the Charlotte Hornets 116-110 and the host Knicks fell to the Boston Celtics 108-104.

The Hawks led by as many as 11 points in the first half and trailed by as many as seven in the third quarter before squandering a narrow lead in the final six minutes of the fourth. The Hornets scored on 10 of their last 12 possessions, a span in which Atlanta was 4-of-11 from the field, including 1-of-7 from 3-point land.
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"I've got to play better - I mean, I don't want to put anything on my teammates," said guard Trae Young, who was 1-of-9 from beyond the arc. "It's tough. I don't want to play like that. I'm not going to play like that."

The Hawks were 5-of-29 (17.2 percent) from 3-point range, their worst performance from beyond the arc since shooting 16.7 percent (6-of-36) in a 113-89 loss to the Knicks last Dec. 7. Young led Atlanta with 23 points while forward Jalen Johnson scored a career-high 21 on 9-of-13 shooting.

Hawks head coach Quin Snyder, who began his first full season at the helm Wednesday, believed Atlanta's struggles from long distance impacted its defensive play. The Hornets shot 50 percent for the game (43-of-86), including 59.1 percent (13-of-22) in the fourth quarter.

"Layups and 3s, I think we have a team that can make both of those," Snyder said. "It's very common when you're not having a good shooting night to stop defending." The Knicks hit 18-of-41 3-pointers (43.9 percent) Wednesday, when they overcame a 12-point third-quarter deficit to take a pair of six-point leads late in the fourth.

But the Knicks' cold shooting from inside the arc spread out at the most inopportune time. New York was 1-of-9 from the field - including 0-for-6 from the 3-point land - and 1-of-3 from the free throw line in the final three minutes, a span in which the Celtics mounted a 13-3 run. "We missed a couple bunnies, missed some free throws, and then they made (some) down the stretch," Knicks head coach Tom Thibodeau said.

The Knicks finished the game just 18-of-56 (32.1 percent) from inside the arc and 14-of-26 (53.8 percent) from the free-throw line. Julius Randle and Jalen Brunson, New York's top two scorers last season, were a combined 11-of-43 from the field and 1-of-6 from the line. "We just missed shots - the basket had a lid on it," Randle said. "But those are shots we'll take and we'll make." Including Friday's matchup in Atlanta, New York plays four of its next five games on the road over eight days.
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Post#3 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:31 pm

Dude is gonna feast on that Saddiq/D Hunter frontcourt:

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Post#5 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Oct 27, 2023 11:47 pm

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Post#6 » by DirtybirdGA » Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:09 am

Hawks looks like a mess.
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Re: Game Thread: QuinHawks Host Winless Knicks in Home Opener 

Post#7 » by D21 » Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:03 am

DirtybirdGA wrote:Hawks looks like a mess.


They actually played far better after you said that :D
sadly until 3 minutes to go.

Capela missing at the rim, follow by a stupid lob attempt from Trae to Capela (yes, some other guys catch that, but it was not enough near the basket, unless it was touched by a NYK defender, I'm not sure) and a missed quick layup by Trae again (one like we saw a lot last season), and the game is lost.

Good game for the bench, good game for Hunter even if I still would like to see his 21' defense back.
But this starting lineup is not working, and I still don't see how Quin can make it work, at least for now...
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Post#9 » by jayu70 » Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:29 pm

Frustrating game all night watching in person, but encouraging in some areas. Execution, the theme if Quin's post game presser:
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60 points vs 36 points on 3s....24 point differential. Won't win this way. But yet, we were a Capela missed bunny away from tying up the game. :banghead:
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Post#10 » by jayu70 » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:50 pm

Too many defensive mistakes. Quin has lots of tape for review.

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Post#11 » by CP War Hawks » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:33 pm

jayu70 wrote:Frustrating game all night watching in person, but encouraging in some areas. Execution, the theme if Quin's post game presser:
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60 points vs 36 points on 3s....24 point differential. Won't win this way. But yet, we were a Capela missed bunny away from tying up the game. :banghead:


Missed a bit of this game had to rewatch this flustercuck. So Trae needs to score more efficiently, but he still creates offense with his misses. His shot is still off coming from last season, gotta let the offense come to him.

DJM I noticed attacked the rim in the 1st and went back to that inefficient off the dribble long range shot. He has to stay in attack mode.

Capela had one great season, got paid and is regressing every season. It's forgivable missing bunnies vs light pressure but I've never seen a 7 footer miss multiple uncontested guaranteed put backs.

Defense is the top issue at hand. They gave up a league high 126 points. Bey and Capela anchoring the defense is a disaster in the making. They are not dynamic enough on offense to offset any issues on the other end.
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Re: Game Thread: QuinHawks Host Winless Knicks in Home Opener 

Post#12 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:12 pm

Close losses are a great opportunity to improve. Usually more instructive than close victories.

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