Who Starts

[tbhawksfan1]

Just to get an idea of who you think should / will start?
Also just something to look at to see some of the possible lineup combos
I have Kobe and Gueye 11 and 12

[tbhawksfan1]

Trae / Ris / JJ / OO / CC
also like
Trae / Bog / Ris / JJ / OO and Trae / DD / Ris / JJ / OO

[jayu70]

I think with the current players, it is:

PG: Trae Young, Kobe Bufkin, Vit Krejci
SG: Bogdan Bogdanovich or Dyson Daniels, Garrison Mathews
SF: DeAndre Hunter, Zaccharie Risacher
PF: Jalen Johnson, Larry Nance Jr., Mouhammed Gueye
C - Onyeka Okongwo, Clint Capela, Bruno Fernando

[CP War Hawks]

The deal has yet to be finalized, and it seems a 3rd team is likely to be included.

[Jamaaliver]

I think with the current players, it is:

PG: Trae Young, Kobe Bufkin, Vit Krejci
SG: Bogdan Bogdanovich or Dyson Daniels, Garrison Mathews
SF: DeAndre Hunter, Zaccharie Risacher
PF: Jalen Johnson, Larry Nance Jr., Mouhammed Gueye
C - Onyeka Okongwo, Clint Capela, Bruno Fernando

[Geaux_Hawks]

As of right now:

1-Trae
2-DD
3-Zacch
4-JJ
5-OO

Hunter is what he is at this point, and i'd rather see DD next to Trae with Zacch flanking them. Hunter truly might be best off the bench.

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[raleigh]

It's too early for me to guess because I expect that:

1) One of Nance/Capela will be traded. (Probably Nance because of the lower salary).
2) The Hawks will sign a veteran PG to allow Kobe more time.
3) The Vit and Bey situations are complicated.

[CP War Hawks]

As of right now:

1-Trae
2-DD
3-Zacch
4-JJ
5-OO

Hunter is what he is at this point, and i'd rather see DD next to Trae with Zacch flanking them. Hunter truly might be best off the bench.

This is my answer if no other moves are made until the midseason. Trae runs with guys that cover his deficiencies. Dyson likes to cut and Trae can get him backdoor opportunities, his rebounding is a plus. Zac is tall as sht, likely a smidge more than JJ. He should be at minimum a better rebounder than Hunter which is key for OO to excel in his role at 5.

Bofkin, Bogi, Hunter should be the scoring unit coming in. Nance is good enough at 5 for this group. The 4 spot in this group is probably the biggest question mark for both units.

Just hoping for decent enough value from a CC trade. Don't expect Vit, Bey, Bruno to be with the team depending on what other moves are being made. Bruno actually could be kept as the backup third 5.

[HMFFL]

As of right now:

1-Trae
2-DD
3-Zacch
4-JJ
5-OO

Hunter is what he is at this point, and i'd rather see DD next to Trae with Zacch flanking them. Hunter truly might be best off the bench.

Same lineup I want us to go with.

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[Jamaaliver]

Don't expect Vit, Bey, Bruno to be with the team depending on what other moves are being made. Bruno actually could be kept as the backup third 5.

I am absolutely stunned that no one seems to be pulling for Vit Krejci as starter or even a regular rotation guy.

He was legitimately phenomenal when given consistent minutes with the big league club.

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[Geaux_Hawks]

Don't expect Vit, Bey, Bruno to be with the team depending on what other moves are being made. Bruno actually could be kept as the backup third 5.

I am absolutely stunned that no one seems to be pulling for Vit Krejci as starter or even a regular rotation guy.

He was legitimately phenomenal when given consistent minutes with the big league club.

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I'm not saying I don't want Vit in the rotation. I just don't see a path for him to start beyond injuries.

Even for him to see heavy rotation minutes, you'll have to have somebody between Bufkin, Bogi, Hunter??, DD, and Zacch taking less minutes.

I do want Vit on the team, and a Hunter trade helps him see the floor. Hopefully that is the plan moving forward.

[CP War Hawks]

Not anti Vit but I've seen guys pad their stats late in the season. Chris Crawford and Bob Sura come to mind. It's actually a great thing that the depth is pushing guys like Bey, Vit, and Bruno out of the rotation supposedly.

[raleigh]

I've seen guys pad their stats late in the season

You're too kind.

Vit would not crack the rotation of most NBA teams. I imagine he's considering a return to Europe, since some of the top Euroleague teams could pay him about as much as Atlanta should.

[HMFFL]

With Dejounte Murray gone that's 18.8 field goal attempts that we can give Vit Krejci.

Or, we can share the attempts with Vit, CC, and OO, so we have eight players with over 10 field goal attempts per game.

The options are unlimited.


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[Jamaaliver]

Not anti Vit but I've seen guys pad their stats late in the season. Chris Crawford and Bob Sura come to mind. It's actually a great thing that the depth is pushing guys like Bey, Vit, and Bruno out of the rotation supposedly.

Vit would not crack the rotation of most NBA teams. I imagine he's considering a return to Europe, since some of the top Euroleague teams could pay him about as much as Atlanta should.

1. This is a very good point. A lot of end of season production does not always translate over to FT success.

2. But I feel like we're underestimating Krejci's impact/significance as a whole. (Perhaps because he was a 2nd Round pick who bounced around the league?)

Yet these types of guys are often fixtures on good/great teams.

Guys like:

• Dan Gafford on the Mavs (2nd Round Pick)
• Bruce Brown on the 2023 Nuggets (2nd Round Pick)
• Caleb Martin on the Heat(undrafted)
• Naz Reid in Minnesota (Undrafted)
• Lu Dort in OKC (Undrafted)
• Andrew Nembhard in Indiana (2nd Round Pick)
• Josh Hart in New York (2nd Round Pick

Good franchises and teams look for underrated gems, diamonds in the rough and then develop them as low cost depth pieces.

I'd think that a 6'8" two way combo guard who's an efficient scorer, a willing passer and an improving defender would garner a bit more support.

(Especially over higher paid, underachieving lottery guys like DeAndre Hunter and Dyson Daniels.)

[raleigh]

low cost depth pieces

Well, that's the rub, right? If he is willing to sign for the vet min (or a little above), then it's a no-brainer.

I'd think that a 6'8" two way combo guard who's an efficient scorer, a willing passer and an improving defender

He's tall/long, a willing passer, and has shown mild improvement as a defender. I'd add that he seems to be a great teammate.

But he's not a plus defender, is more of a wing than a guard, isn't particularly athletic or strong, isn't consistently efficient, isn't aggressive enough as a scorer, and has had some injury trouble in the past.

If you want a "value comp" for Vit, it's Dalano Banton. Worth keeping around on the roster at a low-cost? Absolutely. Good enough to pencil into the rotation? Absolutely not.

[Jamaaliver]

He's tall/long, a willing passer, and has shown mild improvement as a defender. I'd add that he seems to be a great teammate.

But he's not a plus defender, is more of a wing than a guard, isn't particularly athletic or strong, isn't consistently efficient, isn't aggressive enough as a scorer, and has had some injury trouble in the past.

I would disagree with you there.

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[Jamaaliver]

Seriously, Vit was possibly our best TEAM defender down the stretch of last season. (The numbers and the eye test bear this out.)

I'm really psyched to see what he can do this year.

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[raleigh]

The numbers and the eye test bear this out.

They absolutely do not. You're wanting to see something in the meaningless final games of a lost season that isn't replicable in a more competitive environment.

As far as defensive numbers:

RAPM (2-yr): -2.3
EPM: 42nd %ile
LEBRON: -0.08
DRIP: 0.00
DARKO: 0.31

Even within a team context, his DRtg was 122. That's lower than every player getting solid minutes other than Trae.

The reality is that the lineups at the end of the season were terrible. Even so, he did a nice job of connecting Hunter with Bogi and that's more than worth holding on to at a reasonable price. But let's not go overboard.