The truth? You can

[Skyhawk1]

The truth is, the Hawks still haven

[Skyhawk1]

You trade for A. Miller and all of our problems on the offensive end are gone. He can push the tempo. He can dictate the pace of the game. I think we can survive with the Bigs we got, but a PG is vital for this team. We can't score with the pgs we got. And A.J. has played some nice games, but he can't keep it going for too long as we have seen.

[dms269]

Not exactly a permanent fix but is Earl Boykins still a free agent? He is fast and can run, and also can uses his speed to exploit other teams.

A little one year deal might be decent to add him.

[cfan79]

You trade for A. Miller and all of our problems on the offensive end are gone. He can push the tempo. He can dictate the pace of the game. I think we can survive with the Bigs we got, but a PG is vital for this team. We can't score with the pgs we got. And A.J. has played some nice games, but he can't keep it going for too long as we have seen.

I was thinking the same thing. Andre Miller seems like the perfect fit for the Hawks. Josh Smith and Horford would feel like a horny teenager at a porn party.

[Lue_4_MVP]

We could probably get either Hinrich or Duhon for real cheap. They both kind of suck but anything is better than the situation we have right now.

My preferred choice is Andre Miller. I would've liked to get Jack or Calderon before this season but that's probably out of the window now. Another one is Sergio Rodriguez who is stuck behind like 3 vets but did well in limited minutes last season, though we probably won't get him because of the whole "prospect" thing.

Why won't BK made a damned trade???

[betta1]

CP3
JJ
JC
Smoove
Horford

A man can dream.

[dms269]

CP3
JJ
JC
Smoove
Horford

A man can dream.

You can but that lineup would have never happened.

I would like Duhon if he came cheap.

[betta1]

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You can but that lineup would have never happened.

I would like Duhon if he came cheap.

Prob not...hence the dream bit.

[HoopsGuru25]

Duhon would not help our half court offense at all. He is a liability on offense.

Andre Miller is my number 1 choice. He is available for 75 cents on the dollar and he's a huge upgrade over any one of our points(despite people saying he was no better than AJ 4 weeks ago).

[tbhawksfan]

PHI is looking for young bigs. Zaza and Shelden could be part of something with a future pick and expirings.

[tbhawksfan]

I meant Zaza or Shelden

[killbuckner]

If it were just this season then bringing in Sam Cassell would make some sense. I think the Hawks could get him for expirings plus their second round pick. THe problem is that I just don't see Acie being a quality starter which means that the Hawks have a long term problem at PG. I have said over and over that I think the Hawks should go out and get Andre MIller, I still think thats by far the best option.

[JoshB914]

I think Phili are looking for young bigs that have some kind of future.

[dms269]

Miller might be good, but once again I am afraid of what it would cost us. I doubt Philly deals him for Shelden and expirings.

[reazun]

If it were just this season then bringing in Sam Cassell would make some sense. I think the Hawks could get him for expirings plus their second round pick. THe problem is that I just don't see Acie being a quality starter which means that the Hawks have a long term problem at PG. I have said over and over that I think the Hawks should go out and get Andre MIller, I still think thats by far the best option.

I like Sam too, he can fill a hole for now but he is old. Why dont you see Acie as a quality starter? Do you mean now or in the long run? Because it seems way too early to start judging his potential already. Rookie pgs always start out slow. Only a few can come in and be really good at their rookie season

[HoopsGuru25]

Shelden or Zaza,Lue,Lo, and a lottery protected 09 first for Miller and Calvin Booth or Randolph works in the trade checker and would be a solid offer for Miller. I don't know what other teams are offering for Miller though. Orlando and Cleveland would obviously be interested in Miller(maybe Houston but Alston is good this year)...but most playoff teams already have their point guard besides us.

[LL Cool Scott]

If it were just this season then bringing in Sam Cassell would make some sense. I think the Hawks could get him for expirings plus their second round pick. THe problem is that I just don't see Acie being a quality starter which means that the Hawks have a long term problem at PG. I have said over and over that I think the Hawks should go out and get Andre MIller, I still think thats by far the best option.

I'm afraid you might turn out to be right about Acie. It's too early to judge a rookie, but the fact is that I can't remember once watching him play and saying "wow - he really has those great point guard instincts." Because he doesn't. It's scary. He looks like an undersized 2-guard who can't really shoot. And it's not like he's young and raw either.

[LL Cool Scott]

Addressing Sekou's article - it's very well stated and he's right about most everything. We either have to go completely small-ball and run or we have to mix up our roster in the next couple of years. Because you can't win big playing half-court basketball where your tallest player is 6'10. Eventually, either Josh Smith or Marvin Williams has to go somewhere else so Horford can move to his natural position. Our main problem is still that we are loaded at 3 positions and still have big holes at point and center.

[tontoz]

it's very well stated and he's right about most everything

It is wrong about one thing. The Hawks actually have been running a lot. Their last game against the Raps was an rare case when they didn't have a lot of fast break points, getting only 8.

Over the previous 20 games they had averaged 20 fast break points per game.

[D21]

Regarding Acie, I also think we can't said anything on him at this moment, and I would said it's not so important if he's a shooting PG or a passing PG, the most important thing is only if he will be able to be the starting PG for the Hawks, even more "A starting PG" which is what we need: a real one.

Now, would it have been better to trade this pick (and filler) to DEN for Camby by draft day ? (even if we don't know the exact cost since it was rumors)
In order to win now, Yes. We could still have get a PG by trading Zaza, Shelden, expiring... adding it would have been easier to convince one to come here with a more "win now" roster.

Since this team is and stays in the "playoffs zone", some of us have the feeling this summer moves (picks) was in a "win now" view, but reality is not. Management would not have keep these both picks if that was their plan.

It was improvement, but long term improvement...

The only thing which hurts me is if we trade for a PG who ends up being our new starting PG for next years, why did we have kept this 11th pick ?
It would have been more simple to imagine trading this pick than starting now to imagine trading Acie.
And if they don't made any trade for a starting PG in the next month, it would show that "win now' was not their plan. Just hoping for a little improvement pushing this team to the playoffs, but not more at this moment...while lots of us have started to hope more.