Memo to ASG: Hire Larry Brown

fo_o_fo_404 · Post #1 » by **fo_o_fo_404** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 1:22 pm

Accoring to our wiretaps and the Philadelphia Inquirer, Brown wants back in....but he does NOT want the Sixers job.

I saw him talking to Levenson and Peskowitz extensively during pre game shootout arounds ( for like an hour), and whatever he was saying, they were ATTENTIVELY listening. I overheard, via Sixers PR, that he rarely, if ever, travels with the Sixers...so was this a potential job interview? Funny that the article is in today's wiretaps.....I just put two and two together and this sounds like a logical decision.....hear me out:

If Brown wants back in, this would be the ideal situation for him and the only person Woody would agree to be demoted for. Yes, I said it....DEMOTE Woody! Since the ASG don't want to fire him outright, demote him and let Larry Brown be the head coach. Woody can be the lead assistant, like he was in Detroit, and allow Larry's older brother, Herb Brown, continue as a top adviser/consultant. Sign Andre Miller at the trade deadline and you may have something here.

Thoughts?

Post #2 » by **dbodner** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 1:35 pm

The reason he wouldn't coach with the Sixers is because he would be replacing Mo Cheeks, one of his longtime assistants. I'm sure the sentiments would be similar replacing Mike Woodson.

tbhawksfan · Post #3 » by **tbhawksfan** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 3:09 pm

Maybe not; if Woodson is fired/demoted first.

Hawks · Post #4 » by **Hawks** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 3:31 pm

I don't think Larry Brown is a good fit for this team.

evildallas · Post #5 » by **evildallas** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 4:48 pm

WORST IDEA EVER!!!!

Larry Brown outside of being duplicitous scum is an tinkerer who is never happy with a roster (and I don't mean that in a good way).

conleyorbust · Post #6 » by **conleyorbust** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 5:21 pm

LB is a dick.

Its going crazy right now, how long til a super bowl victory parade in ATL?

evildallas · Post #7 » by **evildallas** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 5:33 pm

Super Bowl parade? I'm going to guess "Not in my lifetime"

AU hawksfan · Post #8 » by **AU hawksfan** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 5:38 pm

Why would we want to hire an extreme unprofessional in Larry Brown?

He's had scuffles with players everywhere he goes and doesn't know how to finish out a contract.

No Thanks!

td00 · Post #9 » by **td00** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 5:38 pm

Larry Brown working with young professionals = the ultimate oil and water mixture. There is no fit here. He and George Karl need vets to succeed.

Put Don Nelson in here and you have my vote. He likes to get the ball out and score the ball!

conleyorbust · Post #10 » by **conleyorbust** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 5:40 pm

td00 wrote:Larry Brown working with young professionals = the ultimate oil and water mixture. There is no fit here. He and George Karl need vets to succeed.

Put Don Nelson in here and you have my vote. He likes to get the ball out and score the ball!

Thats a really good way to put it.

I'd love to see what Nellie could do with this squad. He'd have a field day.

smabie · Post #11 » by **smabie** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 7:04 pm

Having actually lived in a town with, and had season tickets for, a team coached by Larry Brown (San Antonio)...

Over a short period of time - no more than 3 seasons - Larry Brown can be the best thing to happen to a team. Developing young talent is his specialty; there's no way that the Spurs would have gotten where they have without him laying a foundation of team play in Robinson and Elliot. The current roster for Detroit's best success, despite their preference for up-tempo offense -- heck, the best success of most teams out there -- was with Brown at the helm, no matter what any of us may think about him otherwise. I can think of only three teams more successful without him than with him (Spurs, Knicks, and Nets), and none of them had anything to do with him being a failure (well, the Knicks, perhaps, but I don't lay that one on him).

I don't particularly like the man's style. He's far from the epitome of uptempo offense -- though he has done so on occasion, if the team did what he wanted on defense. And he's definitely a 100% marker that the ownership actually gives a damn with this team, and wants to do something to improve. He'd be like when they hired Hartley for the Thrashers; he might not be perfect for this team, but he's a helluva lot better than anything we've got right now.

So yes, he might not be the best coach for this particular team, but he is by far the best hire for them. And far far better than their current choice.

JoshB914 · Post #12 » by **JoshB914** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 8:11 pm

LB is a great coach. But I don't think he's a good fit here. He would be too much for our young players. He's had success with veteran teams but I don't think it's work here.

Rip2137 · Post #13 » by **Rip2137** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 8:39 pm

There is a reason that teams get worse when Brown leaves. While he is there, he makes stupid trades that mess up team chemistry and then leaves when it doesn't work.

He will NEVER be satisfied with the roster, winning or not and will constantly make trades and for the most part leaves rosters in a bad shape when he leaves.

And the Pistons didn't get worse when he left. That is quite the myth. they beat a Heat team with a injured Shaq and Dwayne Wade (in seven games I believe) one year in the finals and the next year lost to the healthy version of the team.

That had nothing to do with the team getting worse or Flip. It had to do with Miami being healthy unlike the year before.

evildallas · Post #14 » by **evildallas** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 1:59 am

Let me reiterate that I would not go to a game if Larry Brown was hired here. I'm not just talking not renewing my season tickets, I am talking about never going to see a game period. Few people get that strong of a reaction from me. His public conduct over the last 4 years have made that much of an impression on me.

smabie · Post #15 » by **smabie** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 1:12 pm

Public conduct over the last 4 years...?

Oh, so in other words, you're upset because he pulled a Petrino on Detroit?

Fair enough, I suppose. I think there's a whole lot more to it (what happened in Detroit, not how you feel about him) than any of that, and I definitely believe that the Media should get a fair share of the blame of what went on during that time as anyone else; it's one thing to break a story, its another thing to entirely create one (remember, the team for whom he was supposedly leaving Detroit wasn't the Knicks, it was the Cavs). Other factors didn't help. But it is a fair cop.

But for every person like you who won't buy season tickets if Brown came to Atlanta, there'd be at least 5 who do. Plus, the ones who don't buy tickets initially, at least half will change their minds if Brown's successful in turning the team into a winner. So while in your case it may be a valid threat, I really don't see it being one that ownership would take seriously. Sort of a "I'll never listen to your show again," sort of thing -- no talk show host ever takes that seriously.

evildallas · Post #16 » by **evildallas** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 3:02 pm

Actually, I was embarrassed by his conduct during the Olympics and his stint in New York. Coaches better dealing teams happens all the time. I think he was a little extra classless in how brazen he did it and the timing, but it happens. Coaches committing character assassination in the media and setting up excuses for losing before ever playing games is not so common.

As for my voting with my wallet, let me give you a little history. I stopped attending games when the franchise acquired Rider. I didn't come back until they drafted Josh Smith. I then cancelled season tickets for a year because BK drafted Shelden Williams (and signed Speedy Claxton and Lo Wright). I communicated to the team exactly why I was doing it too. My stance here is no different or less serious. I didn't say I wouldn't catch the occasional game on TV, but for me to save thousands and not go to the arena to send my message I can do that. It is the only recourse I have as a fan to vote with my wallet. Do I expect ownership to change their mind because of me? No. Do I hope that my honest communication of why I'm no longer willing to give them money to at least make them think twice when considering someone's suggestion of something that I believe is horrible for the team? I hope so. If after weighing that the owners believe like you do that they'll sell 5 times as many season tickets if they hire him and that he'll take the team to the promised land then they probably should hire him. Maybe I'll be back in 5 years after they undo the impact of his 2 years here, maybe I won't.

conleyorbust · Post #17 » by **conleyorbust** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 3:54 pm

larry brown carries a pretty heavy stigma with him. Whether or not that would affect ticket sales is up for debate but regardless of results, people don't like him. One way to think about it would be that people would want to come because he is a big name coach with a reputation for losing, another way to think about it is that this is an organization with a reputation for doing almost everything wrong and this is just another step in the wrong direction. It certainly isn't a slam dunk move.