Simple but big tarde / Very possible too....

[ACE_reppin_ATL]

Ok, we all know that the Hawks have been terrible from the perimeter offensively, right? Well, when you think about it, it makes sense that the main reason is not the lack of shooters, but the drought of inside post scoring. We have shooters (In order of quality - Joe, Lue, Marvin, Salim, AJ, Chillz) but nobody on the team demands defensive attention on the block.

Even though Josh is getting there and has had some decent games from scoring inside, he is still a little far from demanding double teams or defensive adjustments. Joe is our best post scorer and he doesn't post up enough to get enough doubles to dictate the 1/2 court game, but he is also our best scorer / arguably best shooter / definitely the most clutch.

Here's a simple deal that could give us a key player that can come right in a make an impact while add size, post scoring, and possibly sending a starter to the bench which will make our depth stronger. Problem is that Chillz or Marvin will need to be moved to make room to sign Smoove. But if we are going to get any kind of solid piece added to this team, isn't that going to be our dilemma anyway? My vote is to move the more valuable Marvin + make them to take Speedy and get young star @ PG. IMHO, Chillz is irreplaceable because of his IQ, tenacity, and all-around intangibles that you can't teach.


Incoming Player:
Eddy Curry

Outgoing Players:
Tyronn Lue / Zaza Pachulia / (maybe) 2008 2nd

Curry's strengths are what we need and his weaknesses can be easily hidden with our players around him. For example:

WEAKNESS: Curry is a subpar rebounder and avg. interior defender
SOLUTION: He starts next to Horford and Josh

STRENGTH: HAWKS need consistent interior scoring to free up slashers / shooters = stronger OFF / better team
SOLUTION: Curry is a very solid post scorer

[Rip2137]

I said this a while back, only with Randolph instead of Curry. Randolph can actually rebound. He can't defend for **** though. ANd we still wouldn't have shooters to space the floor properly.

[Rod700]

I like the way you think, but Curry's contract is too much for him to fill a one-dimensional need. Is there a cheaper utility low post scorer we could add for Shelden or Zaza if he is a sizeable center?

[conleyorbust]

Curry might very well be the player I dislike watching the most in the entire association.

To say that he is a subpar rebounder and average interior defender is like saying that Amy Winehouse has a bit of a lifestyle problem. He is 52 out of 56 centers in rebound rate and might be the laziest defender in the history of the league. I looked at his +/- just for fun, he is one of the least effective players on the Knicks... ONE OF THE LEAST EFFECTIVE PLAYERS ON THE KNICKS!!!

His interior scoring goes to waste too, while he had a 4 centers who couldn't rebound as well as even him, there was no center who has a lower assist rate. He is literally the worst passing center in the league.

No, no Eddy Curry's allowed.

[JoshB914]

Eddy Curry is awful now. I'll take Horford over him any day. We don't need to take on a contract like Randolph either.

[dms269]

I don't like the idea of paying that much for a backup (yes I am saying he will not start at the center. Moving Smith to the 3 would be horrible for the team, and him...but also the fact that we would be moving Marvin who is becoming a very solid to the bench).

[Lue_4_MVP]

I wouldn't take Curry for free, though the thought of dumping Zaza and Lue is very enticing... maybe if the Isaiah threw in a couple unprotected picks?

[evildallas]

I like this deal more although Eddy Curry is still not my choice for any deal.

Eddy Curry
Nate Robinson (or Fred Jones)
for
Lue
Zaza
Shelden

Curry has a huge bad contract for what he provides. He's got 3 years left at 31M. If NY is serious about getting him out of there, they need to add stuff to him. In this deal they take back 7.5M in salary next year to offset some of Eddy Curry. Robinson gives us a playmaker off the bench. I think NY should kick us a 2nd round pick also.

>>>> Alternative plan to Curry >>>>

If we're willing to take on a big with a bad contract I'd rather take on Samuel Dalembert
2nd rounder
for
Ty Lue
Zaza Pachulia
Shelden Williams

Again the Pachulia/Shelden combo is to offset season 1 salary impact. A 2nd round pick is for giving Philadelphia cap relief. Doesn't help us offensively, but really helps D and rebounding especially when Josh is on the bench. Gives us a strong 4-5 rotation of Josh/Al/Daly. Sadly there is no real way to add both Daly and Andre Miller. I'd try to work this in combination with a Memphis trade to try and get Mike Miller and Kyle Lowry (Childress/Lo Wright/Salim/2010 1st).

Resulting makeover this year
AJ/Lowry/Law
JJ/West
Marvin/Mike Miller
Josh Smith/Solomon
Al/Dalembert

Next year (notice the stability)
Lowry/Law
JJ/West/2nd round rookie like Shan Foster
Marvin/Miller
Josh Smith/2nd round rookie PF like Joey Dorsey
Al/Dalembert/Solomon (or another FA)

The only issue I see is that resigning Josh Smith will take ASG just short of the luxury tax next season (assuming the max). If the team is willing to do that then I see a strong 8 man rotation with flexibility and various skills with D, rebounding, shooting, and mix of developing youth. If the team is not willing to make that commitment to spend then there is no way I entertain the thought of any of these large contracts.

[perthwildcat]

His interior scoring goes to waste too, while he had a 4 centers who couldn't rebound as well as even him, there was no center who has a lower assist rate. He is literally the worst passing center in the league.

To make things worse have a read of this..

http://www.82games.com/random29.htm

They keep stats on how players turn the ball over... There is nobody in the league that manages to turn the ball over as often in as many different ways as Eddie...

[HoopsGuru25]

I'd trade for Curry not Randolph. Randolph is a horrible lockeroom guy who isn't that efficient of a scorer. He does have good low post moves but doesn't use that to his advantage so it's irrelevant. He also plays the same exact position as Josh Smith. Curry is a horrible rebounder and defender but at the very least he draws double teams and isn't a volume shooter like Randolph. He would help the Hawks weak bench scoring and weak scoring from all our big men in general. If I'm going to trade Shelden/Zaza.. I perfer a defensive center(which is a bigger weakness than a low post scorer imo) like Diop in return...but I'm not sure that's possible. If my choices are Eddy Curry or Zaza/Shelden..I'm taking Eddy Curry 10 times out of 10 despite his deficiencies.

If we're willing to take on a big with a bad contract I'd rather take on Samuel Dalembert

Didn't see this at first..if he's available then I'd definitely take him over Curry. He would be harder to acquire than Curry though. As far as I'm concerned Zaza/Shelden/Lo really provide next to nothing for the Hawks..if we could get a good shot blocker or a good low post scorer for either of them...then we should jump on it.

[HoopsGuru25]

After re-thinking...$10 million a year is too much for some one who is below average at every skill but one(low post scoring). While I'd take Curry over Zaza or Shelden for basketball reasons...we have much bigger weaknesses to fill for $10 million a year.

[mattlanta]

I don't know why you guys want Curry. I've watched him a lot up here in CT, and to be honest with you, there's nothing special about him really. He's overweight, out of shape, and never hustles. He's just over-rated IMO.