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Matt Carroll. Sounds like he has been in a recent shooting slump.

Is this the shooter we are looking for? I don't know how much this would help us. He isn't making too much of an impact in Charlotte.

This might be one of those cheap deals to keep us cap friendly for the 2 Joshes.

td00 wrote:Matt Carroll. Sounds like he has been in a recent shooting slump.

Is this the shooter we are looking for? I don't know how much this would help us. He isn't making too much of an impact in Charlotte.

This might be one of those cheap deals to keep us cap friendly for the 2 Joshes.

He is shooting 40% from 3. I could live with a shooting slump like that.

He is an expirer making 5.2 million. Worth a shot.

I hope it happens. He can shoot.

td00- you are aware that Matt Carroll just signed a 27 million dollar contract this past offseason right?

killbuckner wrote:td00- you are aware that Matt Carroll just signed a 27 million dollar contract this past offseason right?

His contract goes down in value right?

So we pass on a true 3 point shooter like Kyle Korver who brings his game night out and we're resorting to Matt Carroll who makes even more money..........That's pretty frustrating to me!

Matt's in a slump right now, but yet he's still not attempting the 3 pointer he once was, and I hope any talks fall flat. He's not a expiring contract like many of the salary sites list.

Not sure how cap friendly he is. He has 5 more years on his deal at $21.4M. That's 5M next year with the salary going down. He could be helpful if used right, but I kind of hoped we could zero in a shooter or 2 that could also be useful on perimeter D like Azubuike, Pietrus, or Barnes (all free agents in off season) or Udoka or maybe some of the guys you see on the Portland or Toronto rosters. Of course none of the players I listed are really acquirable right this minute.

I would be more up for a Matt Carroll acquisition earlier in the season, whereas now it seems too little too late. I think his contract would mean that Josh Childress is gone over the summer (if not sooner). I don't think this is necessary a bad thing, but I kind of hoped that if we accepted that he was gone we'd add a better piece to the puzzle. I would only consider adding Matt Carroll after thoroughly exhausting any trade possibilities for Mike Miller, who though he'll cost more would give a much more complete player to add to the rotation. Having said that any good long range shooter adds a dimension to the roster that is sorely missing.

Also just noticed that he's a BYC player that makes him tricky to acquire

Salaries:
07-08: $5,450,000
08-09: $5,050,000
09-10: $4,700,000
01-11: $4,300,000
11-12: $3,900,000
12-13: $3,500,000

Anyone know what else would be required in the deal to accommodate the BYC math?

Nevermind, I was being lazy. Did it myself.

The easiest trade cap wise would be
Matt Carroll
Othella Harrington (expiring)
for
Lo Wright
Shelden Williams

Other ways to do it would be to add Nazr Mohammad's bad contract or Adam Morrison.

Carroll and Morrison would mean for Zaza and Lue.
Carroll and Nazr would mean Zaza, Lo Wright, and AJ.

In theory Felton would work, but would they really do that?
Carroll and Felton for Childress, Shelden, and Salim works math-wise.

BYC deals require the teams to normally agree of swapping crap.

The hawks are under the cap so BYC isn't much of an issue. Lue + salim for Carrol works fine for instance.

killbuckner wrote:The hawks are under the cap so BYC isn't much of an issue. Lue + salim for Carrol works fine for instance.

Weird, ESPN approves it, but RealGM doesn't.

Results from the ESPN Beta Trade Machine:

Charlotte Bobcats
You have increased the winning percentage by 20.73%

Projected: W-27 L-55
After trade: W-44 L-38

Tyronn Lue

$3,500,000
Years Remaining: 1
PPG: 6 RPG: 0
APG: 1 PER: 13.124

* T. Lue
* S. Stoudamire

Outgoing Players: Matt Carroll
Atlanta Hawks
You have decreased the winning percentage by -9.76%

Projected: W-36 L-46
After trade: W-28 L-54

Matt Carroll

$5,450,000
Years Remaining: 6
PPG: 7 RPG: 2
APG: 0 PER: 10.461

M. Carroll

Outgoing Players: Tyronn Lue, Salim Stoudamire


Wow. They love that deal for Charlotte.

I hope we can get him for one of the deals above.

I rather have Mike Miller which he will be good as our SF. dont need another SG.

The view from Cats fans.

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=761920

Atowngetdown wrote:I rather have Mike Miller which he will be good as our SF. dont need another SG.

SF? The Hawks have 2 players who are clearly SFS in Chil(who we put at the 2) and Marvin and another 2 guard in Joe who is 6'7 235. With Chil likely gone next year...you can play Carroll at the 2 and Joe at the 3 if this trade were to go down. Miller would be ideal but you can't wait around for the perfect deal.

I really wanted Carroll last off season. But his contract is way too long to deal with.

HMFFL wrote:So we pass on a true 3 point shooter like Kyle Korver who brings his game night out and we're resorting to Matt Carroll who makes even more money..........That's pretty frustrating to me!

That's BK for ya.

Korver got traded for a 1st round pick which the Hawks don't have.

HG- it was for a future first round pick which the Hawks do have.