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Post#1 » by HoopsGuru25 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:08 am

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Hawks to trade 4 players for Kings' Bibby

Could a four-for-one deal completed Saturday finally net the Hawks the point guard they've coveted?

Hawks captain and All-Star Joe Johnson certainly hopes so.

The Hawks have agreed in principle to trade for Sacramento veteran Mike Bibby, sending veteran point guards Anthony Johnson and Tyronn Lue back to the Kings, along with second-year forward Shelden Williams and veteran center Lorenzen Wright.

The deal is expected to be finalized Saturday afternoon, a person familiar with the situation told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Officials from the Hawks, Kings and NBA will participate in a 4 p.m. conference call.

Bibby could join the Hawks in time for Tuesday's game against the Los Angeles Lakers, the first of five straight road games against Western Conference teams. The next night, the Hawks face the Kings in Sacramento.

"This is another huge step for us," Johnson said Saturday while preparing to play in Sunday's 57th NBA All-Star Game. "You're talking about a guy who can make shots and can run a team. He embodies all the things we've wanted in a veteran point guard and he's also a guy that's known for taking and making big shots.

"And you can never have too many guys like that in the NBA. As tough as it is to see guys like Lue, A.J., 'Ren and Shelden leave, we all realize that this is a business and decisions are made and you make the best of things and move on. But there's no doubt we're getting a guy that can help make us better."

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Reasons the Bibby deal makes sense for Hawks


Three reasons the Hawks' trade for Mike Bibby works:

1. They didn't have to part with any their core. Both Marvin Williams and Josh Childress have been mentioned in numerous trade rumors, and for the Hawks to get a player of Bibby's caliber without giving up either of their coveted young talents
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Post#2 » by HMFFL » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:13 am

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Oh Sorry. It was on a pre-game show on the Fox Sports Radio before the Rookie/Sophmore game. 2 NBA insiders reported that they were close to a deal.


Did anyone else hear this?
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Post#3 » by raleigh » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:13 am

Bibby is PERFECT. I hope this is true.

He can run an offense, he's a vet, he can hit the open three, and he takes some of the pressure off JJ.

Plus, his contract ends before Marvin's extension is due...
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Post#4 » by Andrew34r » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:32 am

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Did anyone else hear this?


I dont know how many people listen to Fox Sports Radio on a Friday Night at around 7:00pm besides me but I can promise you guys I am not making this up. I guess if a deal is done over the break thats the only way to prove this is true. I wish I could remember who the host of the show was but I think it was just a pre-game show for the Rookie/Sophmore game where they had some NBA insiders on that are in New Orleans and clearly up to date with the latest rumord deals. The guy said he thought the deal would be in place by Monday.
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Post#5 » by HoopsGuru25 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:32 am

It's going to be pretty tough to match salaries. A trade of Shelden/ Salim/Lo/Lue/AJ for Bibby/Williams works if Williams agrees to the trade. I also read(Sham on the CBA board) that teams can take on two extra players(17)to make the deal work if they cut waive within 24 hours. I guess we would fill out the rest of the roster(13-15) with D-Leaguers/vet minimum players.
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Post#6 » by Hawks » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:33 am

I haven't heard anything about it. Kings fans are not talking about it. It is tough to believe for many reasons. Seeing as how we hope something happens. I will go along with the rumor for now.
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Post#7 » by HoopsGuru25 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:36 am

Hawks wrote:I haven't heard anything about it. Kings fans are not talking about it. It is tough to believe for many reasons. Seeing as how we hope something happens. I will go along with the rumor for now.

Exactly..I don't think the trade is going to happen but I do tend to believe that the "insiders" on Fox Sports radio discussed it because I don't see why a Bucks fan of all people would make this up. It's just a rumor at this point.

Bibby gives us another player who can create his own shot and he also has the ability to hit threes which our two of our weaknesses. His defense and passing are both below average but I don't think he would be a downgrade in those departments which shows just how bad Lue and AJ are. Bibby also has a rep of being a good scorer with the game on the line which should help considering we play like cowards in just about every close game.
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Post#8 » by HoopsGuru25 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:59 am

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Post#9 » by HMFFL » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:00 am

I went to the Kings board also and noticed there was nothing about Mike being moved. Will see what happens!
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Post#10 » by raleigh » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:03 am

I'm not going to sleep until Monday now.

The thought of an actual PG might make me pee my pants.
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Post#11 » by HMFFL » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:07 am

mrhonline wrote:I'm not going to sleep until Monday now.

The thought of an actual PG might make me pee my pants.


:rofl:

I'm not exactly thrilling by this rumor. On the other hand Mike would only be around for another year and we can go from there.

I will tip my hat to both the ASG and Billy Knight if they can pull off a trade that only centers around Shelden Williams.
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Post#12 » by HoopsGuru25 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:09 am

If we can get Bibby w/o giving up Joe/Law/Chil/Marvin/Smith/Horford then I think I will feel way more comfortable with the ASG and a little with BK(although the trade could end up being bad). I don't think Bibby would improve the Hawks as much as Andre Miller would but he's an upgrade over Lue/AJ albeit a very expensive upgrade who may be on the decline. If the ASG is willing to pay $14 million dollars for that upgrade then I'm more than OK with it. This also lessens the blow of the 2006 draft...Bibby is not worth the 5th pick in that draft(Roy) but trading the pick for him at the time made a hell of alot more sense than drafting Shelden and signing Speedy.
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Post#13 » by raleigh » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:09 am

As long as Law, Marvin, JJ, Smith, and Horford aren't involved, I couldn't care less what combination of players are involved.

(Although if Childress goes, I'd like to see another wing in return. And not too many bigs going the other way, too. They may suck, but sucky bigs are better than no bigs).
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Post#14 » by KF10 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:19 am

Hmm, I didnt hear anything....Eh, Bibby could be a perfect fit for you guys IMO... But Sheldon Williams? I dont really think he showed that much potential to be a lotto pick IMO...
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Post#15 » by SactownHrtBrks8 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:22 am

kingsfan10 wrote:Hmm, I didnt hear anything....Eh, Bibby could be a perfect fit for you guys IMO... But Sheldon Williams? I dont really think he showed that much potential to be a lotto pick IMO...


As long as we get expiring with them I am for this deal
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Post#16 » by KF10 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:26 am

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As long as we get expiring with them I am for this deal



Bibby expires next year...A 14.5 million expiring contract...IMO I will not trade Bibby due to Petrie's plan of 09 IMO...I just dont get it...Why trade for earlier expirings? This FA offseason is weaker than the 09 FA (Which is argubally the best in recent years IMO) His contract will be handy IMO...
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Post#17 » by SactownHrtBrks8 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:36 am

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Bibby expires next year...A 14.5 million expiring contract...IMO I will not trade Bibby due to Petrie's plan of 09 IMO...I just dont get it...Why trade for earlier expirings? This FA offseason is weaker than the 09 FA (Which is argubally the best in recent years IMO) His contract will be handy IMO...


I know he likes Salim Stoudamire (we almost drafted him). Williams is nice future big (defiantly backup). This is only his second year. We get cap space earlier than 09 which saves us the luxury tax. We start full rebuilding. I get it
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Post#18 » by HoopsGuru25 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:40 am

It's not a done deal yet. The Kings could be getting Shelden or Childress. You never know...especially since Chil did not play against Charlotte..he's also from Cali and went to college in the same area as Sac and you could probably re-sign him for the MLE. Did any one notice Chil getting hurt in the Detroit game or did this "injury" happen in the shoot around the next morning or something?
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Post#19 » by KF10 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:46 am

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I know he likes Salim Stoudamire (we almost drafted him). Williams is nice future big (defiantly backup). This is only his second year. We get cap space earlier than 09 which saves us the luxury tax. We start full rebuilding. I get it



But would it nullifies of what Petrie's plans of 2009?
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Post#20 » by SactownHrtBrks8 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:50 am

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But would it nullifies of what Petrie's plans of 2009?


Probably, but you also have backup plans.

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