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can someone please check if Horford tipped that inbound pass in the rap game. i would, but i didn't record the game. if you could also freeze frame it and post it, then better.

Horford doesn't have to touch the ball, as long as the video makes it look close, then it would be hard to over turn.

Im rolling with Horford, if he says he touched it, then I believe him..lol!

i just want a freeze frame pic to shove in the rap's face.

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I believe he tip the ball. Horford is not the type of player to go around and telling lies.

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I'm pretty much done with the whole situation. The game is over with. Stern will not change the call. It was a fun game.

As a Raptor fan, this stings like hell. Both of our teams are young and growing and will be pitted against each other many more times and this will be fuel for the fire as the rivalry grows.

But come on! The angle of that picture is hilarious. Horford did not touch the ball.

Next thing you'll be telling me is that you believe in magic bullets.

I watched the play over and over but from that angle you can't tell if he touched it. But there's a chance he might have. Anyway, if Horford is saying he did tip that ball, I'm with him.

Hey Hawks fans.. someone posted a picture of Horford's attempt to touch the ball:



Thanks to whoever captured that..

Hortford did not touch that ball. I've watched the video and did not see any change in the balls flight. That angle is pretty useless. Remindes me of the skwed angle the Hawks fans were peddling about Ford touching the ball when the clocked started, when he plainly did not.

It was a bad call, and bad judgement, but I'm not going to lose sleep over that. I might lose sleep over us blowing a 17-point lead. And I might lose sleep over;

1. The fact that the ball did not go off Moon after the Johnson three-point miss

2. The fact that 0.5 was on the clock not 0.8. Refs usually keep a good eye about these things, and I'm dissapointed that they did not for this game.

3. I felt that there should have been a reach in foul on the last Toronto possesion where Delfino got the offensive rebound, but it was ripped away.

The bad call 0.15 shot clock error just added insult to injury.

The ball could of touch his thumb, its very possible that Al has touched the ball.

Skar wrote:The ball could of touch his thumb, its very possible that Al has touched the ball.

...and the clock keeper saw that.

I wouldn't go off of Al saying he tipped the ball. Its pretty damn rare for a player to come out after a game and say that a ref screwed up when they were the beneficiary of the call.

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...and the clock keeper saw that.

Not saying the clock keeper did or not, but again its still possible that Horford could be telling the truth when he said he touched it, the ball could of slide across his thumb slightly.

Skar wrote:The ball could of touch his thumb, its very possible that Al has touched the ball.

Had his thumb made contact with the side of the ball, it would have altered the spin (even had he just brushed it). Though that video only continues for a few frames afterward, you can make out the seams on the ball, and the fact that it continues to rotate with no side-spin.

In the end, it matters not; frustrating as this situation is, the most that will happen is a tersely-worded press release in a week's time stating that there was no misconduct on the part of the scorekeepers or the referees. Atlanta will get the win, the referee involved will have an unpleasant 20 minute conference call with someone in the league office, and no other actual will result.

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Had his thumb made contact with the side of the ball, it would have altered the spin (even had he just brushed it). Though that video only continues for a few frames afterward, you can make out the seams on the ball, and the fact that it continues to rotate with no side-spin.

In the end, it matters not; frustrating as this situation is, the most that will happen is a tersely-worded press release in a week's time stating that there was no misconduct on the part of the scorekeepers or the referees. Atlanta will get the win, the referee involved will have an unpleasant 20 minute conference call with someone in the league office, and no other actual will result.

Not always, your finger could slide across the ball and it will not altered the spin. If the finger gots a bigger chunk of the ball, then yes.

YEAH, OK THERE BUDDY +_+

Schadenfreude wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Had his thumb made contact with the side of the ball, it would have altered the spin (even had he just brushed it). Though that video only continues for a few frames afterward, you can make out the seams on the ball, and the fact that it continues to rotate with no side-spin.

In the end, it matters not; frustrating as this situation is, the most that will happen is a tersely-worded press release in a week's time stating that there was no misconduct on the part of the scorekeepers or the referees. Atlanta will get the win, the referee involved will have an unpleasant 20 minute conference call with someone in the league office, and no other actual will result.

Which ref though? The one who messed up by a tenth of a second...

Honestly, it sucks and there should be a better way to do it but this isn't that guy's fault.

Hawks wrote:I believe he tip the ball. Horford is not the type of player to go around and telling lies.

You know him well I see. If he tipped it and that is why the ref started the clock at that time, why would the ref not claim he started at that time then. Think about it.

Had his thumb made contact with the side of the ball, it would have altered the spin (even had he just brushed it).

Not necesarily. I took a jumper well behind the college 3 once and actually heard the defenders fingernail scrape the ball but it didn't affect the ball at all. I made it of course.

Don't forget even if he tipped it, what about the .3 seconds we were robbed after the Bibby 3. Anyways, Hawks get the win this time and we will see you next year to continue the new rivalry.