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I personally don't see how they have anything that we would want to trade for Josh Smith that we wouldn't match whatever offer they put out here though.

It's impossibly at this point for Dallas to acquire Josh Smith. Josh Howard won't work due to Atlanta having Marvin Williams. So, I just don't see how a trade is possibly with the limited value Dallas has.

From Atlanta's perspective Brandon Bass would need to be included. I just don't see anyone else that works.

Dirk would have to come

HMFFL- Marvin simply isn't good enough for the Hawks to worry about keeping his spot in the lineup free. He is a below average starter who hits FA next offseason- the Hawks need to start considering if there are ways to upgrade the SF position.

oh- I never said that. I am just saying that I don't think people should be worrying about "blocking" marvin anymore. Just as I don't think the Hawks should be passing up moves worrying about "blocking" acie law.

killbuckner wrote:HMFFL- Marvin simply isn't good enough for the Hawks to worry about keeping his spot in the lineup free. He is a below average starter who hits FA next offseason- the Hawks need to start considering if there are ways to upgrade the SF position.

Right, but I don't that is really the issue.

The issue is that we don't have a hole that needs to be filled by Josh Howard that would warrant trading Smith for him. Do you think we should trade Smith for a Howard?

Smoove or Howard? I choose Smoove.

Is it possible to package Marvin and Chills for a inside guy? Smoove, Horford and Zaza need help in the worst way.

If you can find one, you better plan on him coming in as a starter. Oh, if only Caron Butler would come here. At this point, I would take a Chuck Hayes, who will not get as many minutes behind Scolia and Yao.

killbuckner wrote:oh- I never said that. I am just saying that I don't think people should be worrying about "blocking" marvin anymore. Just as I don't think the Hawks should be passing up moves worrying about "blocking" acie law.

Agreed.

conleyorbust wrote:Dirk would have to come

Exactly. They don't have Harris or any picks left so I don't see the point of even talking to them.

This sounds like the rumor an agent would start to get his client max money. It worked for Rashard Lewis...

The Mavs do understand that a sign and trade requires us to sign off on it right?

killbuckner wrote:HMFFL- Marvin simply isn't good enough for the Hawks to worry about keeping his spot in the lineup free. He is a below average starter who hits FA next offseason- the Hawks need to start considering if there are ways to upgrade the SF position.

I fully agree with you as that's been my point all season long. Not exactly sure why you quoted me and replied to what I have been saying all year long.

How do you upgrade the 3 by trading Josh Smith to Dallas? By acquiring Josh Howard for him and finding away to move Marvin Williams later?

JoshB914 wrote:The Mavs do understand that a sign and trade requires us to sign off on it right?

The articles does say SNT.

Mavs hoping they can work their way into the sign-and-trade mix for either Miami's Shawn Marion or Atlanta's Josh Smith.

Marc Stein is just pointing out the obvious needs and Josh Smith is one of them. However, Marion is a much better fit, and the Mavericks need to pursue him strongly.

I can't remember the last time Marc Stein was right about anything.

conleyorbust wrote:Dirk would have to come

I like Smith and all. He is a great player, but Dirks Value...come on

why u need howard when u have jj and childress

conleyorbust wrote:Dirk would have to come

I expect Dirk to do that when Smoove gets traded. Hell, I'd come too.

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I like Smith and all. He is a great player, but Dirks Value...come on

My point wasn't that Smith=Dirk, my point was that we have no other reason to deal Smith to the Mavs.

Yep, this is simply a ploy by Smith's agent.

He should've been more creative.

The only piece the Mavs have is Dirk...