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$hits and giggles

Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2008 6:39 pm
by tbhawksfan
Two trades to build the new Hawks.

ATL / NY

Smoove

for

Curry / Lee / *#6


ATL / MEM


Bibby / Zaza / 2009 second / 2010 first

for

M Miller / Cardinal / Crittenton

* NY drafts Mayo or Lopez and sends them to Hawks

Sign: David Andersen

New Hawks:


Curry / Andersen

Horford / Lee / Jones

JJ / Marvin / Richardson

Miller / Chil / Mario W.

Law / Crit

Add Mayo or Lopez or even Joran and it looks pretty good.

Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2008 6:49 pm
by conleyorbust
you realize that this essentially replaces our best defender with one of the worst in the league, right?

Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2008 6:53 pm
by atl_fan
Eddy Curry=bad idea

Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2008 7:09 pm
by NDaATL
Anything involving Eddy Curry is a terrible, terrible trade. And Mayo won't be available by #6.

The 2nd trade is decent but I'd probably reject that also.

Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2008 7:30 pm
by HoopsGuru25
1st one is extremely unrealistic because not only will you have to take on Curry...you will also have to pay David Lee who's agent reportedly wanted $13 million a year for an extension(he is w/o question the 'fan favorite" of the Knicks). I don't want to pay over $20 million for Lee and Curry.

How long is Cardinal's contract? I'm not sure if we can afford Miller and Cardinal but Bibby/Zaza/1st for Miller/Critt is extremely lopsided IMO.

Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2008 7:36 pm
by NDaATL
He makes about 6.5 million a year over the next 2. That's actually not that bad after second thought, I probably would do the second deal. I was thinking his contract was a lot longer.

Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2008 7:39 pm
by tbhawksfan
Lee's not gonna get $13M a year. Hate to loose Josh, but if Curry balls, we go to the top of the East.

Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2008 7:43 pm
by NDaATL
^ Curry won't ball because he doesn't try. He is the worst defender in the NBA. He is pound for pound the worst rebounder in the NBA.

He flat out doesn't care or try and is never in shape. He's a black hole on offense and a turnover machine. He played 36 minutes per in 06-07 and averaged a career high 0.8 assists.

He flat out sucks.

Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2008 7:47 pm
by tbhawksfan
He also shot 55% and could put up 16/7 in less than thirty minutes.

Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2008 8:13 pm
by JoshB914
NDaATL wrote:^ Curry won't ball because he doesn't try. He is the worst defender in the NBA. He is pound for pound the worst rebounder in the NBA.

He flat out doesn't care or try and is never in shape. He's a black hole on offense and a turnover machine. He played 36 minutes per in 06-07 and averaged a career high 0.8 assists.

He flat out sucks.


Eddy Curry is "pound for pound" the worst in the NBA at almost everything he does. I know the Knicks won't keep him, but it would be great entertainment to see him try to run the floor in Dantoni's offense.

Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2008 8:54 pm
by HoopsGuru25
tbhawksfan wrote:He also shot 55% and could put up 16/7 in less than thirty minutes.

Curry is a worse defender and rebounder than Zaza. The Hawks are not in a position to waste $10 million a year on a player like Eddy Curry. He actually had the worst/plus minus of any rotation player in the league.

People need to remember that the Hawks were 15-12 at beginning of January last year....which is the equivalent of 45 wins throughout the season(4th seed in the East).The two biggest reasons why we had that record back then were because Marvin was playing very well(shooting over 50% from the floor)and the defense was ranked 6th or 7th in the league. In January, Marvin fell back down to Earth(as well as AJ), and the defense got much worse(even before Bibby). The Hawks should be targeting a defensive center(just about all the top defensive teams have one) and/or a scorer like Redd/Miller/Howard to give us a real second option. A player like Curry is not going to help the Hawks.

Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2008 10:14 pm
by Hawk4Playoffs
Why would we trade Josh Smith after his performance in the playoffs? Especially for someone like Eddy Curry... Josh deserves a spot on the Hawks roster for another 4-6 years. He hasn't even reached his peak. I think Eddy Curry has definitely reached his peak... and there is no way that the Knicks would ever trade David Lee. A player like Eddy Curry would only send the Hawks back in the lotto.

Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2008 10:26 pm
by Retrovision
Mayo is most likely gone at 3.

Posted: Sat Jun 7, 2008 12:21 am
by parson
Zaza is better than Curry.

I didn't say he has more talent; I didn't say he had more potential; I didn't say he can do any drill better than Curry.

I said he's better. I'm saying that, if you could put each into a starting role for us for a season, Zaza would give us more. Curry is a negative.

Posted: Sat Jun 7, 2008 12:30 am
by parson
That said, when Curry's contract is on it's last year, he might be a good gamble. I suspect he'll pull a Dampier for one year.

Posted: Sat Jun 7, 2008 12:32 am
by LL Cool Scott
Eddy Curry is maybe the most untradable player in the league. I think it would be a GREAT idea to bring him in.

Posted: Sat Jun 7, 2008 1:17 am
by Harry10
Smoove for Billups

Horford for Arenas

Marvin and Chil for Artest

Joe for Kaman

Bibby for JO

C: Kaman
PF: JO
SF: Artest
SG: Arenas
PG: Billups

Posted: Sat Jun 7, 2008 1:41 am
by High 5
Unless Curry explodes for 30+, just about anything he gives you on offense is wiped out by his defense and rebounding. Lazy and stupid isn't a good combination.

Posted: Sat Jun 7, 2008 1:47 am
by evildallas
I really dislike Curry's lack of rebounding and defense. Also you are overpaying for Miller/Cardinal/Crittenton. Taking Cardinal's 2yr of contract should alleviate the 1st round pick in the deal at least.