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A little different ATL / PORT / TOR
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:21 pm
by tbhawksfan
Marvin Will. / Bibby / 2010 first / Solo Jones / 2009 second
for
Pryzbilla / Frye / Outlaw / Kapono / Jack
Pryzbilla / Jack / Outlaw / Frye
for
TJ Ford / Marvin / Jones
TJ Ford / Kapono
Bibby / 2010 ATL first / 2009 ATL second
Horford / Pryz / Zaza
Smoove / Frye
Outlaw / Kapono
JJ / Chil / Mario
Jack / Law / Speedy
Re: A little different ATL / PORT / TOR
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:57 pm
by parson
I'm not a big fan of this trade.
PORT gets the best young starting 5 in the NBA and only gives up bench players. HEAVILY tilted in favor of the Blazers.
TOR gets .... what? What's the incentive for them to do this trade? If the deal is fair to the Hawks, then the picks will be poor. If the deal's unfair, you move to my next point...
... that the deal hurts the Hawks. Pryz is only good in small doses. If you play him more than about 25 minutes a game, his health and production both collapse. Frye is too soft, Outlaw is just a guy, Kapono is fatally flawed in every part of his game excepting his outside shot.
That leaves Jarrett Jack. Last season, I thought he was rounding into a decent PG. His game fell off this season. He's worse than Bibby at every feature of his game, except he's a better defender.
This trade downgrades the Hawks at 2 positions, SF and PG and gives only moderate improvement to the backup defensive center, all at the cost of a 1st and a 2nd.
Re: A little different ATL / PORT / TOR
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:01 am
by parson
By the way, I just tried this trade out on ESPN's trade machine; it didn't work. Maybe TJ Ford's BYC status killed it.
Wow! Looking at the salaries, it's an even sweeter deal for the Blazers. Are you maybe a Blazer fan?
Re: A little different ATL / PORT / TOR
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:10 am
by HoopsGuru25
Too confusing and too much filler in the trade. Find a way for the Hawks go get Ford and Pryzbilla with keeping Joe/Smith/Horford and one of Childress/Marvin and that would be great.
Re: A little different ATL / PORT / TOR
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:48 am
by tbhawksfan
I know we trade Marvin for solid quantity. I'm thinking Bibby will move before the deadline next season. I think this trade gives us everything; two deep at every position, better shooting, more power.
I also think that we upgrade at every position except PG because of the depth.
Maybe PORT could slide us a pick.
Re: A little different ATL / PORT / TOR
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:40 pm
by tbhawksfan
What if we try the trade in two times;
Marvin / Jones
for
Pryz / #33 / #36
Bibby
for
TJ Ford / Kapono
for
Bibby / 2010 first / 2009 second
Draft:
Pekovic PF/C and Jawai PF/C two non- guaranteed bigs to develop and work into a rotation.
Pryz / Zaza / Jawai
Horford / Pekovic
Smoove / Kapono
JJ / Chil / Mario
TJ / Acie / Speedy
We improve our cap situation, get bigger, get a shooter, upgrade the PG as long as TJ holds up.
Re: A little different ATL / PORT / TOR
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:31 pm
by Village Idiot
tbhawksfan wrote:
Pryzbilla / Jack / Outlaw / Frye
for
TJ Ford / Marvin / Jones
I can assure you Portland wouldn't do that. TJ Ford is a bad fit at PG for Portland next to Roy since he can't shoot and needs the ball to be effective. His health issues don't exactly help his case. Marvin Williams really isn't the kind of SF Portland is looking for since his shooting range is limited.
The guys we're losing are quality too. Przybilla is a great defender and rebounder. Outlaw is a better fit for Portland than Marvin and Frye is an above average back-up big.