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Sund's "vision"

Posted: Fri Aug 8, 2008 3:27 am
by parson
Ever since Billy Knight came to us, we've been talking about his vision for the team, mostly how he wanted to play long, long players who were interchangeable on the court. Since there's no news coming out right now, I've been thinking that it's wrong to assume that Sund has the same vision or even that he'll agree to operate under the same philosophy.

It occurs to me that he might have lost Chilz because he doesn't value him the same way BK would've. It also occurs to me that he might not appreciate Smoove as much as most of us do.

Sooooo, what's Sund's vision for our team? Does he want to move Horford to PF and trade Smoove? Does he want to turn Smoove into a center (by trading him, that is)?

What kind of team does Sund want?

Re: Sund's "vision"

Posted: Fri Aug 8, 2008 4:10 am
by Hawks
I really wish I could say they are trying for this kind of team or this kind of team. Honestly, I don't think they have a clue as to what they want to do. Assuming they have a plan. Gearon and Sund more than likely want to put together their team. They tried BK way of building a team and ASG stood by BK in the way he wanted to build the Hawks. Best It got them was 37 wins in a pathetic East. They most be convince that some changes need to be made. I am not sure they really know what direction they want to go in right now.

Re: Sund's "vision"

Posted: Fri Aug 8, 2008 2:21 pm
by Rod700
I agree that they probably don't have a specific direction and they are just scrambling to keep talent at this point (by resigning Smoove, or getting as near to equal talent in return as possible). It's an interesting topic you post, but I think it's too soon for anyone to have any real input on it, unless anyone has a quote where Sund hints at a building strategy.

Re: Sund's "vision"

Posted: Fri Aug 8, 2008 2:34 pm
by conleyorbust
Well, Sund's drafts make it seem like he like project centers but he could just think that late lotto picks are the right place to gamble on potential. Someone said that he referred to Horford as a "center that could play PF", so I don't think he's hung up on getting a 7-footer to start.

I don't think he necessarilly has a "vision", I don't know if you need one unless you are rebuilding. That being said, he doesn't seem to be a visionary in any way.

Re: Sund's "vision"

Posted: Fri Aug 8, 2008 5:03 pm
by evildallas
Do puppets have visions?

Re: Sund's "vision"

Posted: Fri Aug 8, 2008 5:13 pm
by Rod700
evildallas wrote:Do puppets have visions?


Ha ha. Nice.

Re: Sund's "vision"

Posted: Fri Aug 8, 2008 5:35 pm
by HoopsGuru25
Sund's vision when he took over was to stay with the plan and bring back all 8 rotation players to a 37 win team. He didn't interview any other coaches besides Woodson for his "evaluation". He said before the draft that he would be inactive unless he got a "great offer". Everything he has done has went according to plan w/ the exception being losing Childress to Greece. I said before he was hired(and after everyone turned us down including BK himself)that the new GM would be a front man for Gearon who is really calling the shots. Sund basically reiterated what Gearon said about Woodson and bringing back both Joshes before he was even hired. The Hawks wanted to build off the momentum of making the playoffs last year w/o actually fixing any flaws on the roster via trade,the draft,or free agency. Their plan is going to backfire(well it already has since Chil is gone)big time unless they are banking on our young players improving enough to the point where we don't actually need to cover up the weaknesses on the team that can't be addressed internally.

Re: Sund's "vision"

Posted: Sat Aug 9, 2008 6:06 am
by parson
Sorry guys, but I think y'all are all WAY far off.

No way any professional, who stands to make 7 figures over the time of his employment here, goes into a job without a plan.

Re: Sund's "vision"

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:20 am
by ChrisTheFuturePaul
I'd agree that it's a tricky situation for Atlanta as far as not overspending on a roster full of young talent and making a final decision on Horford as PF or C and Josh Smith as SF or PF (especially while they're both filling out their frames.) But I think your teams H.O. has made significant moves to be better. The Bibby deal was huge for you guys, and while hes an age bracket older than most of your squad I think he really is the missing piece to securing the Hawks as a playoff fixture for years to come. Just look at what Andre Miller has done for Philli ! If Bibby can be the rock you need steering the ship you'll be fine.

Personally I like the idea of Horford and Smith upfront with Marv. I think it will work and you'll have one of the most feared frontcourts in the league. So stay patient with your team Hawks fans, you've got alot to look forward to.

Re: Sund's "vision"

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:23 am
by killbuckner
The plan was to keep the core from last season intact and to add complimentary pieces. Once they lost Childress unexpectedly they signed Evans who they saw as the best available replacement for him. Thats a plan- not a very good plan in my opinion but that is pretty clearly what the plan was.

Re: Sund's "vision"

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:43 am
by conleyorbust
parson wrote:Sorry guys, but I think y'all are all WAY far off.

No way any professional, who stands to make 7 figures over the time of his employment here, goes into a job without a plan.


Yeah, his plan was probably to build a competitive team around the current core by finding reasonably priced FAs. He prolly doesn't have a BK-esque "5 interchangeable parts" sort of overarching vision beyond having the best team possible.

What is RC Buford's vision? Add players that complement Duncan.