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I'll just leave this here...
Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2009 7:05 pm
by NWO4Life
Record: 34-26
Win Pct.: 56%
Remaining games: 22
Projected Add. Wins: 12.32
Projected Total Wins 46-47 wins
Last Hawks Season with a winning record: 98-99* Strike shortened 31-19
Last winning full season 97-98 w/ a record or 50-32
I don't think anyone on this board (or any where) mentioned a 46 win projection for this campaign.

Re: I'll just leave this here...
Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2009 8:21 pm
by LL Cool Scott
Might want to check your math again. I'm fairly certain that 34-26 is not a 76% winning percentage...
50 wins is not gonna happen. 46 is a more realistic goal.
All I care about is holding off the Pistons and Heat for that 4th seed. I don't think we can beat the Pistons without home court for that 7th game. I think we can beat the Heat without home court, but it will be a struggle. I really really really hope the Cavs get the top seed - I'd feel a lot more confident going against them in the 2nd round than the Celtics.
Re: I'll just leave this here...
Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2009 8:28 pm
by dpaulh
We would have hardly any chance against either of those teams in the second round... Hopefully we can take care of the 4th seed and the first round
Don't you think it would be a fun rematch with the Celtics though? We need to create some kind of rivalry with someone so that we can get more national attention and a second round playoff matchup with the Celts again would be just that... if we could push it to 7 games again then there is at least 3 nationally televised games next year versus the Celts alone.
The more national attention we get, the more our fans and others watch us and the more intriguing we become to bigger names.
Re: I'll just leave this here...
Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2009 9:23 pm
by D21
Even if 50W would be hard to get, I hope we get at least 45W, and I don't the 4th seed being under that.
NWO4Life, you used 26/34 instead of 34/60, which makes 56.66%, so 46.5W.
But we only played 27 home games, so
there are 14 home games left and only 8 games on the road.
We are at 20-7 at home, so a projected 10.4W record for the last games,
and 14-19 on the road, so a projected 3.4 W.
It makes nearly 14 projected W for the last 22 games, so a record of 50W-32L

Back to reality: some home games will be Vs NOH, UTA, POR, DAL, SAS, BOS, LAL, ORL (the other games: DET, IND, SAC, MIN, IND again and MIA). Not sure we manage to get 10 or 11 W, but it will be interesting to see.
Road games are NYK, CHA, CLE, PHI, BOS, TOR, MIL and MEM.
Re: I'll just leave this here...
Posted: Tue Mar 3, 2009 11:42 pm
by Gutz
Out of those home games 10 are against playoff teams. Those are all brutal home games except for the Sac and Min ones. The rest are really up in the air.
Re: I'll just leave this here...
Posted: Wed Mar 4, 2009 12:56 am
by HoopsGuru25
The schedule actually works out perfectly for the Hawks IMO. The Hawks don't play well on the road in general(which why I'm happy they have less road games)but they seem to get down by about 10-15 points at some point in just about every road game against good teams. The last quality road win the Hawks have(I don't consider the AI pistons a good team)was against Miami in December.
The Hawks play well at home in general. It's pretty obvious that the Hawks have alot more confidence for "big games" at home. The only 3 games the Hawks weren't competitive in at home were against Philly,New Jersey,and the Clippers. They had the lead late against Boston and Cleveland and Bibby missed a wide open layup that would have tied the game vs Orlando. 50 wins would be nice but I really don't care what the Hawks win total is as long as they have the 4th seed.
Re: I'll just leave this here...
Posted: Wed Mar 4, 2009 1:22 am
by NWO4Life
whoops sorry bout my math I have got a head cold like nobody's business
Re: I'll just leave this here...
Posted: Wed Mar 4, 2009 1:27 am
by parson
Just wanted to point out that, while I'm probably the biggest homer on this board, even I only guessed at 42-45 wins for this season (I can't use the search feature to make sure).
There were many, HERE, on this board, who said there was no chance this team could play .500 ball or better.
Gentlemen, enjoy this. Marvelous, Horford and Smoove are only going to improve for about the next 3-5 years.
Re: I'll just leave this here...
Posted: Wed Mar 4, 2009 1:48 am
by HMFFL
The O/U wins from Vegas was 35.5
parson, from two threads about predictions I see that you posted that we would be over .500 but nothing as far as an actual numbers as far as wins go.
Re: I'll just leave this here...
Posted: Wed Mar 4, 2009 2:29 am
by raleigh
parson wrote:There were many, HERE, on this board, who said there was no chance this team could play .500 ball or better.
Some of the best crow I've had in years. Happy to have been wrong.
I agree about enjoying it, too.
Re: I'll just leave this here...
Posted: Wed Mar 4, 2009 2:33 am
by JoshB914
parson wrote:Just wanted to point out that, while I'm probably the biggest homer on this board, even I only guessed at 42-45 wins for this season (I can't use the search feature to make sure).
There were many, HERE, on this board, who said there was no chance this team could play .500 ball or better.
Gentlemen, enjoy this. Marvelous, Horford and Smoove are only going to improve for about the next 3-5 years.
I wouldn't say there were too many that said we'd have "no chance" to be .500. But this team has certainly surprised me with their record, especially with how many inconsistencies they've shown on the floor.
Re: I'll just leave this here...
Posted: Wed Mar 4, 2009 2:35 am
by parson
Thanks, HMFFL.
What's the deal with the search feature? We used to be able to use it to go back to ... forever. Did it use too much space? Cause too many arguments? Get anybody fired when his boss looked at his post #s?
Re: I'll just leave this here...
Posted: Wed Mar 4, 2009 2:36 am
by tontoz
LL Cool Scott wrote:
50 wins is not gonna happen. 46 is a more realistic goal.
All I care about is holding off the Pistons and Heat for that 4th seed. I don't think we can beat the Pistons without home court for that 7th game. I think we can beat the Heat without home court, but it will be a struggle. I really really really hope the Cavs get the top seed - I'd feel a lot more confident going against them in the 2nd round than the Celtics.
That is where i am. It doesn't much matter if we will 44 or 47 as long as we get the 4th seed. I think if we get the 4th seed we win the first round.
i think we will give Boston or the Cavs trouble. Boston doesn't have Posey any more and the Hawks are better than last year.
Marvin does such a good job on Lebron defensively that it gives us a chance against the Cavs. The Hawks have shown that they respond to big national TV games.
Just out of curiosity i went back to the play by play to see if my perception was right. Lebron played 44 minutes and scored 26 pts. Only 15 of those were when Marvin was playing.
Re: I'll just leave this here...
Posted: Wed Mar 4, 2009 2:41 am
by parson
By the way, mrhonline, you (I think it was you) posted a great set of improving #s for Marvelous earlier (on Hawksquawk). Where'd you find those?
As I said earlier, isn't it great to think about the improvement our young'uns will be showing for the next few years?
Re: I'll just leave this here...
Posted: Wed Mar 4, 2009 3:13 am
by raleigh
Probably
www.basketball-reference.com. That's my favorite stat site.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... ima02.htmlThe best ones are under the PER 36 and Advanced sections.
(I also recommend knickerblogger.net, basketballvalue.com, and popcornmachine.net).
Re: I'll just leave this here...
Posted: Wed Mar 4, 2009 4:26 am
by HMFFL
parson wrote:Thanks, HMFFL.
What's the deal with the search feature? We used to be able to use it to go back to ... forever. Did it use too much space? Cause too many arguments? Get anybody fired when his boss looked at his post #s?
It's been down for a couple years. There working on different functions on the site, but theres no timetable for anything to get accomplished, so I have no idea when it's set to come back. It was even down when the site was updated over a year ago. Speaking of post count, I need to just start lurking, because between trying to get the Atlanta boards moving, and other areas on the site mine has bloated.
I gave Atlanta roughly 39 wins, so over the Vegas win number, but I starting being my own enemy after reading different articles online from other predictions. Originally I felt we would have just over forty wins. Elton Brand and CB being traded from Detroit plays into it as well. I expect Philly to be better, Toronto, and Detroit would be better if they kept CB. I'm happy the team's exceeding most of the expectations out there before the start of the season, but I feel the team has plenty of room to improve, and many question marks after the season.
Re: I'll just leave this here...
Posted: Wed Mar 4, 2009 6:25 pm
by Skyhawk1
I predicted 42-46 wins I think. I always thought we were a bit above .500. Now, I don't get carried away at all. There's no way the Hawks will get 50 wins and the reasons Marvin and Horford have been outstanding in the last few games are simple: JJ is passing, Bibby isn't getting many shots due to playing time, and I finally think Woodson realized that Smith can't even be our 3rd option on the offensive end. We're still a long way to go though, and it starts by trading Smith away for a C.