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It is really tough to watch these players ask for trades when they think they are so much better than they actually are. If Acie had any NBA talent the Hawks would be in the next round, but the truth is Law isnt even an adequate backup to Bibby

I dont think he asked for a trade..The wiretap just said that sekou said that if acie wanted more playing time he COULD ask for a trade

We will never really know what Law can bring to the table until he plays for another coach. The talent is there, he just needs the minutes to run the show.

When Woodson buried Salim on the bench there was a debate on whether it was Woodson not giving him a chance or whether he just wasn't good enough. Salim hit FA and flopped so score 1 for Woodson. When Woodson buried Shelden on the bench there was a debate on whether it was Woodson not giving him a chance or whether he just wasn't good enough. Shelden has had 2 stops since then- score 2 for Woodson.

I don't understand why everyone feels Acie should have just been allotted minutes. Woody was fighting for the playoffs and his job in Acie's rookie season, and we had big goals (that we reached) this past year. We were never in a position to basically tank just to see what he could do. Acie had to earn his minutes, and he never did that.

killbuckner wrote:When Woodson buried Salim on the bench there was a debate on whether it was Woodson not giving him a chance or whether he just wasn't good enough. Salim hit FA and flopped so score 1 for Woodson. When Woodson buried Shelden on the bench there was a debate on whether it was Woodson not giving him a chance or whether he just wasn't good enough. Shelden has had 2 stops since then- score 2 for Woodson.

Wow.

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killbuckner wrote:When Woodson buried Salim on the bench there was a debate on whether it was Woodson not giving him a chance or whether he just wasn't good enough. Salim hit FA and flopped so score 1 for Woodson. When Woodson buried Shelden on the bench there was a debate on whether it was Woodson not giving him a chance or whether he just wasn't good enough. Shelden has had 2 stops since then- score 2 for Woodson.

Basically how I feel. Acie brought this on himself and he looks like nothing he did during College. Not sure what the problem is with him, but he looks scared and he doesn't have any confidence.

I dont think anyone wanted the Hawks to tank the season just so Law could get minutes, that would've been very stupid. I do think woody could have worked Law in a little more . Woody said it himself in a post game interview, that he needed to find a way to get Law more minutes. Law would have been a much better option against mo williams in the Cleveland series. Law penetrates and kicks better than any other guard on the roster and thats exactly what the Hawks were missing in the playoffs. Law needs to be in a system that allows him to cut loose and play his game. Woody's system is to stagnant for Law. As far as woody not playing Sheldon & Salim, i understand the message but i feel Law is in another class compared to those to guys.

killbuckner wrote:When Woodson buried Salim on the bench there was a debate on whether it was Woodson not giving him a chance or whether he just wasn't good enough. Salim hit FA and flopped so score 1 for Woodson. When Woodson buried Shelden on the bench there was a debate on whether it was Woodson not giving him a chance or whether he just wasn't good enough. Shelden has had 2 stops since then- score 2 for Woodson.

I don't know about Salim because he's just an inconsistent 3-pt shooter who likes to shoot and doesn't play defense and is a tweener. But I thought Shelden would at least find some minutes off the bench... I guess he's just not athletic enough. I guess score 1 for Woody for Shelden. Score against Woody for Diaw. It will be score against Woody if Law goes to somewhere else. He's athletic and quick and play defense... just need to fine tune his shooting a bit.

Acie Law is not a talented basketball player. Why is this so hard to accept? He's a combo guard who can't shoot. If he could play, he would be on the floor.

BAMABIRD wrote:I dont think anyone wanted the Hawks to tank the season just so Law could get minutes, that would've been very stupid. I do think woody could have worked Law in a little more . Woody said it himself in a post game interview, that he needed to find a way to get Law more minutes. Law would have been a much better option against mo williams in the Cleveland series. Law penetrates and kicks better than any other guard on the roster and thats exactly what the Hawks were missing in the playoffs. Law needs to be in a system that allows him to cut loose and play his game. Woody's system is to stagnant for Law. As far as woody not playing Sheldon & Salim, i understand the message but i feel Law is in another class compared to those to guys.

Playing your young players simply for the sake of their development rather than putting the players out there that give you the best chance to win is tanking in my book. That is what the T'Wolves, Warriors, Kings, and others did this season and it's what we used to do when we were irrelevant by January. I don't have much of a problem with that, but being that we had plenty to play down the stretch of the last two regular seasons there was no reason to do it.

If we play Acie big minutes his rookie year then it probably costs us the playoffs. Which in turn costs Woody his job. Why would he do that? He had no incentive to play Acie, and Acie certainly gave him no reason to change his mind based on the crap performances he turned out when he had his chances.

I remember some posts last offseason about how Acie had "all star talent" and that he would showcase it this season once he got some PT. Turns out he wasn't even good enough to get on the court in the first place. I wonder where those people are now?

I feel strongly that Acie is going to be a decent player in the NBA. He has all the tools. PG is one of the toughest positions to play in the NBA and he hasn't gotten the minutes to learn it.

Von Wafer, Lowry, and Aaron Brooks (probably the best of the 3) all played contributing roles in the playoffs. Acie can be at least as good as the first two.

He just needs some minutes and a good offseason but I think, especially with the thin bench we have, he's going to be a contributor next year.

If he gets traded, so be it, but I think he's going to contribute somewhere. I'm not saysing star, but I think he can get 12-5.

From Sund's interview in the AJC (article linked in one of the posts below), he's happy with Acie's development. Acie went from a garbage time player as a rookie to an end of rotation player in his 2nd year (then Woodson cut the rotation to make a playoff run - perhaps not coincidentally around the time Acie got hurt). It's not that Woodson isn't playing him - he is. It's just that Acie hasn't developed as fast as we (as fans) would have liked. Doubly so when you consider the players taken quickly thereafter: Thaddeus Young and Al Thornton. It does make one wonder where we'd be if BK would have taken Deron or CP3...

It wouldn't surprise me if Acie came into camp next year with a vastly improved shot and challenged for the backup PG spot (starting PG if Bibby leaves). Then again, it wouldn't surprise me if Sund traded him as "filler" in a deal this off-season... especially if Bibby leaves.