Ramon Sessions

geeman · Post #1 » by **geeman** » Mon May 25, 2009 11:45 pm

Why draft and gamble on anther young PG that may not pan out or get into a bidding war with a FA pg. I think this guy maybe ready to blossum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcAq7p6tdQQ

theatlfan · Post #2 » by **theatlfan** » Mon May 25, 2009 11:50 pm

Would *love* to have him, but wouldn't MIL just match anything we offered? Do we have anything in a SNT that would suit them?

Post #3 » by **dms269** » Tue May 26, 2009 12:51 am

Wouldn't we get into a bidding war with the Bucks after him? What is the most we could logically offer him? The MLE? I have a feeling if it was the mle that the Bucks would match.

payne · Post #4 » by **payne** » Tue May 26, 2009 7:35 am

i am a mavs fan, so i know my word doesnt really count much, but i dont think sessions is the best option for you. i think felton is a better pg all around and atl should try to acquire him, if i recall correctly i think felton is a FA.

Post #5 » by **Diop** » Tue May 26, 2009 10:10 am

Felton is also restricted and I would expect the expect the Bobcats to match up to the 7-8 mill per year mark.

I think Sessions would be more likely.

niffoc4 · Post #6 » by **niffoc4** » Wed May 27, 2009 5:19 pm

he would be an interesting option, though it wouldn't improve our PG defense any. Maybe pair him with Darren Collison?

My understanding is that the Bucks are right up against the luxury tax, and so they probably would let Sessions go even if it only cost the full MLE.

killbuckner · Post #7 » by **killbuckner** » Wed May 27, 2009 5:31 pm

But if Sessions is going to leave for just the MLE, are you sure he would pick atlanta? I would think that many teams would want him at that price.

HoopsGuru25 · Post #8 » by **HoopsGuru25** » Wed May 27, 2009 5:43 pm

killbuckner wrote:But if Sessions is going to leave for just the MLE, are you sure he would pick atlanta? I would think that many teams would want him at that price.

As the starting pg?

HoopsGuru25 · Post #9 » by **HoopsGuru25** » Wed May 27, 2009 5:58 pm

I'd say there is little shot that the Hawks would get Sessions even if all it took was the MLE..but even then that little shot is still much greater than teams like LA,Boston,Orlando,Denver,etc. The only decent teams that would consider him for the MLE are Portland,Dallas,Philly,and the Hawks IMO.

raleigh · Post #10 » by **raleigh** » Wed May 27, 2009 6:04 pm

I still don't see why a team looking to move further in the playoffs like Atlanta would want him...

HoopsGuru25 · Post #11 » by **HoopsGuru25** » Wed May 27, 2009 6:15 pm

mrhonline wrote:I still don't see why a team looking to move further in the playoffs like Atlanta would want him...

I may be wrong but I'd take Sessions over any other point guard available right now if you could get him for the MLE(which I'm almost certain you can't w/o them matching). He can't shoot but his 1st 100 games in the NBA have been extremely impressive for a 22 year old point guard. When you add in the common 3rd year jumps that just about every good young player makes then it just makes him a no-brainer if all it takes is the MLE.

raleigh · Post #12 » by **raleigh** » Wed May 27, 2009 6:23 pm

But he still a "22 year old PG who can't shoot."

I'm sure there are rebuilding teams that could really benefit from adding Sessions in the offseason, but why would a solid playoff team like the Hawks need him?

killbuckner · Post #13 » by **killbuckner** » Wed May 27, 2009 6:23 pm

HG- you don't think that the Lakers would be interested in him for the MLE? I mean they need a PG in the worst way and don't have a lot of trade assets. Portland is the same way... if you get to add a quality young player on a reasonable contract then I think you do it.

HoopsGuru25 · Post #14 » by **HoopsGuru25** » Wed May 27, 2009 6:32 pm

mrhonline wrote:But he still a "22 year old PG who can't shoot."

I'm sure there are rebuilding teams that could really benefit from adding Sessions in the offseason, but why would a solid playoff team like the Hawks need him?

People said the same thing about Rondo not too long ago. I really don't care if he doesn't have 3 point range yet... Devin Harris and TJ Ford to this day aren't really that good at shooting but I'd still take them as our pg anyday. I just think it would be extremely short sighted to overlook Sessions given the number of players who got significantly better in their 3rd year.

HG- you don't think that the Lakers would be interested in him for the MLE? I mean they need a PG in the worst way and don't have a lot of trade assets.

Not if Fisher is still under contract and if they are trying to re-sign Ariza.

raleigh · Post #15 » by **raleigh** » Wed May 27, 2009 6:40 pm

People said the same thing about Rondo not too long ago.

Rondo still can't shoot from the perimeter, but he's a terrific defender and has the longest arms you've ever seen. That's unfair to compare Sessions to him.

I just think it would be extremely short sighted to overlook Sessions given the number of players who got significantly better in their 3rd year.

He may get better, he may not. The Hawks can't really afford to gamble on their PG position like that. They need someone more proven.

I would be shocked if Sessions was anything more than a last resort for the Hawks. That's not a criticism of Sessions, it's the reality that the Hawks are not in the rebuilding stage and Sessions is the prototypical PG of a rebuilding team.

HoopsGuru25 · Post #16 » by **HoopsGuru25** » Wed May 27, 2009 7:14 pm

Rondo still can't shoot from the perimeter, but he's a terrific defender and has the longest arms you've ever seen. That's unfair to compare Sessions to him.

Rondo has also turned into a good offensive player despite his jumpshot. He is very efficient from the floor and was 6th in the league in assists. Sessions was top 10 in both assist per minute and assists to turnover ratio.When you consider he is likely to improve because of his age...he is easily worth MLE money.

He may get better, he may not. The Hawks can't really afford to gamble on their PG position like that. They need someone more proven.

It isn't like we are a legit contender where it's that big of a gamble. Who are the options that are so much better? Ford has a potentially career threatening spine problem and makes more than the MLE,Jack is not a point guard,Iverson simply doesn't play winning basketball,Bibby is over 30 and plays pretty poor defense,Miller is also over 30 and can't shoot the 3,etc. I don't see any perfect options.

I would be shocked if Sessions was anything more than a last resort for the Hawks. That's not a criticism of Sessions, it's the reality that the Hawks are not in the rebuilding stage and Sessions is the prototypical PG of a rebuilding team.

I agree that the Hawks won't consider him but that doesn't mean they shouldn't. The Hawks had 3 starters who graduated highschool the same year as Sessions and won 47 games. You win with good players regardless of their age.

tbhawksfan · Post #17 » by **tbhawksfan** » Wed May 27, 2009 7:53 pm

I take Sessions in a minute

HoopsGuru25 · Post #18 » by **HoopsGuru25** » Thu May 28, 2009 8:56 pm

Thought this was interesting.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/ ... i?id=2V58E

raleigh · Post #19 » by **raleigh** » Thu May 28, 2009 11:39 pm

^^^Sort that list by 3pt%.

He compares favorably with Andre Miller (minus the defense, of course).

http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/ ... i?id=WVRrN

raleigh · Post #20 » by **raleigh** » Thu May 28, 2009 11:48 pm

I agree that the Hawks won't consider him but that doesn't mean they shouldn't. The Hawks had 3 starters who graduated highschool the same year as Sessions and won 47 games. You win with good players regardless of their age.

You can, but if you don't, you'll find it difficult to re-sign your star SG. While it may be easy for us armchair GM's to say, "This guys looks great on paper," it's another thing to actually be the GM who has to make that call.

The Hawks will be seeking a veteran PG, for better or for worse.