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What would it take from Dallas to get him to Dallas? We really need a serius upgrade at the 2. I feel Johnson would be a great fit there. We can offer anybody except Dirk. Will take back bad contracts if needed.

Also what would you want for Childress? Can he play the 2?

Would something around Terry and Howard/Marion work for you guys.

There is really no-one on Dallas I would want at the cost of Joe. And as far as Childress goes, yes he can play the 2. I would do something like Dampier and a 2nd (draft pick) or Ryan Hollins and a 1st.

I would agree that the Hawks wouldn't deal Johnson for anyone on Dallas. The two players I could see being the main part of a package for him though would be Jason Terry and Josh Howard.

First, isn't Joe a little too young for the Mavs current direction? Second, because of past history I wouldn't expect Jason Terry to be a welcome return to Atlanta. Finally, the Mavericks don't have the pieces to entice us to give up Joe Johnson. Might as well scratch that one from your mind.

evildallas wrote:First, isn't Joe a little too young for the Mavs current direction?

The Mavs current direction (with the exception of Marion) involves signing/drafting 20-something year-olds. Unless Joe Johnson is 16, I think he'll fit in just fine.

The Mavs don't have the pieces. Terry pissed off a lot of fans with his style of play. Plus Marion isn't a major improvement (if even one now) over Marvin anymore, and taken age into account, I would rather have Marvin.

SaintofKillers wrote:

evildallas wrote:First, isn't Joe a little too young for the Mavs current direction?

The Mavs current direction (with the exception of Marion) involves signing/drafting 20-something year-olds. Unless Joe Johnson is 16, I think he'll fit in just fine.

uhhh... then why did they lock up Kidd and Marion long-term?

^^^ Josh understands me. It was a joke rooted in their recent transactions (Kidd and Marion) which in all honesty mystify me. It's not just the players, but the lengths of the commitments. I'm almost certain the moves do not place the Mavs in the top 4 in the West and they've mortgaged any future flexibility to fix the roster. You are right to go out looking for ways to upgrade remaining spots on the roster because what you got doesn't look like it fits to me. But trying to get our top player for spare parts isn't going to fly. Since Cuban has signed away future flexibility might I suggest that you take the expiring contract of Erick Dampier and strap a young asset to it to see if you might be able to turn it into Rip Hamilton.

evildallas wrote:^^^ Josh understands me. It was a joke rooted in their recent transactions (Kidd and Marion) which in all honesty mystify me. It's not just the players, but the lengths of the commitments. I'm almost certain the moves do not place the Mavs in the top 4 in the West and they've mortgaged any future flexibility to fix the roster. You are right to go out looking for ways to upgrade remaining spots on the roster because what you got doesn't look like it fits to me. But trying to get our top player for spare parts isn't going to fly. Since Cuban has signed away future flexibility might I suggest that you take the expiring contract of Erick Dampier and strap a young asset to it to see if you might be able to turn it into Rip Hamilton.

One problem Dampier's contract had way more value than you think he's an unguarranteed 13million expiring.

We wouldn't be willing to trade Damp for a 32 year old for Rip. Neither would they.