Celtics’ future and the new CBA: do they double-bag aprons?

[165bows]

Looks pretty interesting how the team is set up for next year. Currently $163M in salary under contract.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/BOS.html

This includes Pritchard and Gallo but not Grant Williams. Also doesn’t include Champagnie but his spot would be one of the three additional cap holds either which way. So the team is close to $170M in obligations next season.

As far as I can tell the second apron will be a big factor for this team that should create a ton of limitations at just shy of $180M of spending.

Subtracting Pritchard but adding Grant at anything substantially over double digits will put them very close.

Do they go over the double apron???

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-cba-101-everything-to-know-about-new-agreement-from-salary-cap-to-free-agency-and-beyond/

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[Parliament10]

Looks pretty interesting how the team is set up for next year. Currently $163M in salary under contract.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/BOS.html

This includes Pritchard and Gallo but not Grant Williams. Also doesn’t include Champagnie but his spot would be one of the three additional cap holds either which way. So the team is close to $170M in obligations next season.

As far as I can tell the second apron will be a big factor for this team that should create a ton of limitations at just shy of $180M of spending.

Subtracting Pritchard but adding Grant at anything substantially over double digits will put them very close.

Do they go over the double apron???

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-cba-101-everything-to-know-about-new-agreement-from-salary-cap-to-free-agency-and-beyond/

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I think that they go over, in most scenarios. It behooves the Celtics to keep their current players.
Pritchard, we all know, is gone. Some of the Fringe players may stay, as well. Grant will be on the fence.

I can see him (Grant) being offered more money, elsewhere. To my knowledge, though, he doesn't Have to take it.
That may become a choice for Grant. Lower money, but on a Championship Contender. Or, more money on a Flop Team.

Choose Wisely . . .

[jordb2k7]

I’d imagine they are going over but also looks like there are avenues if they had to stay below that they could. The Grant contract will be interesting to watch. I can’t imagine he gets a big payday but I’d imagine he’s going to get low double digits. What happens rest of the playoffs will impact all of these decisions.

Edit: is the second apron happening this summer for sure?

[GregB]

Looks pretty interesting how the team is set up for next year. Currently $163M in salary under contract.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/BOS.html

This includes Pritchard and Gallo but not Grant Williams. Also doesn’t include Champagnie but his spot would be one of the three additional cap holds either which way. So the team is close to $170M in obligations next season.

As far as I can tell the second apron will be a big factor for this team that should create a ton of limitations at just shy of $180M of spending.

Subtracting Pritchard but adding Grant at anything substantially over double digits will put them very close.

Do they go over the double apron???

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-cba-101-everything-to-know-about-new-agreement-from-salary-cap-to-free-agency-and-beyond/

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I don’t think so. Brad has proven to me in his short term that he’s pretty great at finding players that fit within our salary scale. So if we can bring Grant back at close to 10 mil we do so. But otherwise we let him walk and try to create a trade exception like we did with Fournier. No reason to go over the apron next year with a Supermax contract for Jaylen on the horizon.

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Looks pretty interesting how the team is set up for next year. Currently $163M in salary under contract.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/BOS.html

This includes Pritchard and Gallo but not Grant Williams. Also doesn’t include Champagnie but his spot would be one of the three additional cap holds either which way. So the team is close to $170M in obligations next season.

As far as I can tell the second apron will be a big factor for this team that should create a ton of limitations at just shy of $180M of spending.

Subtracting Pritchard but adding Grant at anything substantially over double digits will put them very close.

Do they go over the double apron???

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-cba-101-everything-to-know-about-new-agreement-from-salary-cap-to-free-agency-and-beyond/

Add in your relevant details below.

I don’t think so. Brad has proven to me in his short term that he’s pretty great at finding players that fit within our salary scale. So if we can bring Grant back at close to 10 mil we do so. But otherwise we let him walk and try to create a trade exception like we did with Fournier. No reason to go over the apron next year with a Supermax contract for Jaylen on the horizon.

Also, Tatum's up for a big raise the year after Brown.

[hugepatsfan]

A key factor in the new CBA is that teams above the 2nd apron can only send out draft picks 6 years into the future, as opposed to 7 for us. So if we're below the second tax apron, our "all-in" draft pick offer would be 24/26/28/30 (with swaps in between). But if we go over, then we can't include the 2030 pick, so all in offer would be 24/26/28 or 25/27/29

Going over the second apron also prevents you from making trades where you take back more salary then you send out. I think that impacts our ability to create any TPEs. Or rather, to use them. Like if we decide not to pay Grant, and instead try to do a S&T for a TPE, I'm not sure we'd be able to actually use it because just adding that amount of salary via TPE would put us over the second apron.

IDK, at first glance, it feels to me that we have the choice to either let Grant go and stay below the second apron for next year or re-sign him and go over. BUT if we do stay under we'll be so close to the second apron that we won't really be able to do anything. It feels to me that preserving salary slots for guys on your roster is crucial to team-building. If you let guys go and go under, you basically hard cap yourself because you can't execute any transactions to go back over.

There's a certain number where you have to say no, but the new rules to me seem to make it by far the best option to re-sign Grant just to preserve flexibility. Since trading while over the second apron seems extremely more practical and functional that tip-toeing to stay under it.