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All 4 Celtics Guaranteed by Deadline; Two-Ways to Convert?

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NBA to Waive by Jan 7? - Two-Way to Waive by Jan 20? - Or Extend by End of Reg. Season?

WAIVE (by Jan 7) = Kornet
1
2%
WAIVE (by Jan 7) = Mykhailiuk
13
28%
WAIVE (by Jan 7) = Stevens
1
2%
WAIVE (by Jan 7) = Banton
2
4%
WAIVE (by Jan 20) = Davison
3
6%
WAIVE (by Jan 20) = Peterson
2
4%
Convert to NBA Contract = Davison
1
2%
Convert to NBA Contract = Peterson
0
No votes
Convert to NBA Contract = Queta
24
51%
 
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Re: All 4 Celtics Guaranteed by Deadline; Two-Ways to Convert? 

Post#21 » by jfs1000d » Mon Jan 8, 2024 12:52 am

There is no needs to make a roster move before you have too. After the trade deadline, regardless if Celtics make a move or not, I expect Quetta to be given a roster spot. That guy is too good to be on a two-way.


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Post#22 » by brackdan70 » Mon Jan 8, 2024 12:59 am

Good for those guys. You can always use 2 million dollars. I am not sure I understand keeping Svi though? Maybe trade ballast.
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Post#23 » by 165bows » Mon Jan 8, 2024 2:27 am

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Rangeman wrote:Convert Queta and call it a day. This 15 brothers go to battlecfor the championship.


+1. They've got an open roster spot for a bought-out player. No need to waive anyone. And if you don't convert Queta you will lose him.

Anyone know the deal with a two-deal contract? Player becomes UFA after? Any way to retain RFA rights?
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Post#24 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Jan 8, 2024 2:37 am

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Rangeman wrote:Convert Queta and call it a day. This 15 brothers go to battlecfor the championship.


+1. They've got an open roster spot for a bought-out player. No need to waive anyone. And if you don't convert Queta you will lose him.

Anyone know the deal with a two-deal contract? Player becomes UFA after? Any way to retain RFA rights?

Peterson, Queta, and Davison are all RFA after this season.
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Post#25 » by 165bows » Mon Jan 8, 2024 2:46 am

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Curmudgeon wrote:
+1. They've got an open roster spot for a bought-out player. No need to waive anyone. And if you don't convert Queta you will lose him.

Anyone know the deal with a two-deal contract? Player becomes UFA after? Any way to retain RFA rights?

Peterson, Queta, and Davison are all RFA after this season.

So a player becomes RFA after completion of a two-way, that’s the standard set up? In that case no rush on Queta imo, the big club roster is about winning play off games this year.
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Post#26 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Jan 8, 2024 3:15 am

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165bows wrote:Anyone know the deal with a two-deal contract? Player becomes UFA after? Any way to retain RFA rights?

Peterson, Queta, and Davison are all RFA after this season.

So a player becomes RFA after completion of a two-way, that’s the standard set up? In that case no rush on Queta imo, the big club roster is about winning play off games this year.

Yep, teams just need to issue a qualifying offer when two-way deal ends sometime before free agency period begins.
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Post#27 » by ParticleMan » Mon Jan 8, 2024 2:12 pm

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yep might as well. not like you're going to pick up anyone better on the waiver wire, and they are handy for salary matching.

so i guess Queta stays a 2-way then. gotta admit i was thinking he could replace kornet but luke has really stepped it up since coming back from injury. Queta can use time in the G-league to learn how not to be such a spaz.
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Post#28 » by 31to6 » Mon Jan 8, 2024 3:26 pm

brackdan70 wrote:Good for those guys. You can always use 2 million dollars. I am not sure I understand keeping Svi though? Maybe trade ballast.


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Post#29 » by Gant » Mon Jan 8, 2024 4:29 pm

Here's a good article about the decision to keep all these guys.

Boston’s willingness to retain all of these non-guaranteed deals this year is a strong sign that team ownership is willing to add onto their luxury tax bill in the coming weeks as the trade deadline approaches. While some names that were guaranteed are no-brainers (Kornet is a rotation contributor, Banton is under team control for next season), Stevens and Mykhailiuk have been depth players who have been sporadically used when the Celtics are healthy.

The fact their contracts are guaranteed now does not mean they will finish their seasons in Boston though a source tells MassLive. The Celtics could still elect to package several minimum salaries and another player(s) to make a deal for a player who would not fit into the $6.2 million Grant Williams trade exception. Stevens and Mykhailiuk’s salaries could be valuable tools on that front whereas waiving them this weekend would have made salary matching in that type of deal even tougher for Stevens.

Ultimately, multiple league sources have indicated to MassLive that the Celtics are strongly expected to make some kind of move ahead of the trade deadline. Keeping the team’s roster fully intact now past the guarantee deadline keeps more potential opportunities open for getting a deal done to bolster the back end of the roster.


https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2024/01/source-celtics-retain-4-players-guarantee-contracts-for-season.html
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Post#30 » by 165bows » Mon Jan 8, 2024 4:52 pm

Gant wrote:Here's a good article about the decision to keep all these guys.

Boston’s willingness to retain all of these non-guaranteed deals this year is a strong sign that team ownership is willing to add onto their luxury tax bill in the coming weeks as the trade deadline approaches. While some names that were guaranteed are no-brainers (Kornet is a rotation contributor, Banton is under team control for next season), Stevens and Mykhailiuk have been depth players who have been sporadically used when the Celtics are healthy.

The fact their contracts are guaranteed now does not mean they will finish their seasons in Boston though a source tells MassLive. The Celtics could still elect to package several minimum salaries and another player(s) to make a deal for a player who would not fit into the $6.2 million Grant Williams trade exception. Stevens and Mykhailiuk’s salaries could be valuable tools on that front whereas waiving them this weekend would have made salary matching in that type of deal even tougher for Stevens.

Ultimately, multiple league sources have indicated to MassLive that the Celtics are strongly expected to make some kind of move ahead of the trade deadline. Keeping the team’s roster fully intact now past the guarantee deadline keeps more potential opportunities open for getting a deal done to bolster the back end of the roster.


https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2024/01/source-celtics-retain-4-players-guarantee-contracts-for-season.html

Interesting, implying they will make some sort of move. Also that guys in the $7M+ range could still be in play.
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Post#31 » by bisme37 » Mon Jan 8, 2024 6:43 pm

Congrats to Luke, Banton, Svi and Stevens on keeping their jobs! Good stuff.
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Post#32 » by Hal14 » Mon Jan 8, 2024 6:46 pm

brackdan70 wrote:Good for those guys. You can always use 2 million dollars. I am not sure I understand keeping Svi though? Maybe trade ballast.

Well, you need to have at least 14 guys on the roster. If we waived Svi, we'd only be at 13.

So only way we could waive him is if we sign a FA. Apparently Brad doesn't think any FA is better than Svi. Especially considering Svi is already up to speed with our systems, schemes, has a half season of building chemistry on and off the court with our guys, etc. and anyone we signed to replace him would be starting from scratch with all of that so they'd have to be significantly better than him.

Plus, guaranteeing his contract allows us to use him as trade filler.
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Re: All 4 Celtics Guaranteed by Deadline; Two-Ways to Convert? 

Post#33 » by Hal14 » Mon Jan 8, 2024 7:06 pm

165bows wrote:
Gant wrote:Here's a good article about the decision to keep all these guys.

Boston’s willingness to retain all of these non-guaranteed deals this year is a strong sign that team ownership is willing to add onto their luxury tax bill in the coming weeks as the trade deadline approaches. While some names that were guaranteed are no-brainers (Kornet is a rotation contributor, Banton is under team control for next season), Stevens and Mykhailiuk have been depth players who have been sporadically used when the Celtics are healthy.

The fact their contracts are guaranteed now does not mean they will finish their seasons in Boston though a source tells MassLive. The Celtics could still elect to package several minimum salaries and another player(s) to make a deal for a player who would not fit into the $6.2 million Grant Williams trade exception. Stevens and Mykhailiuk’s salaries could be valuable tools on that front whereas waiving them this weekend would have made salary matching in that type of deal even tougher for Stevens.

Ultimately, multiple league sources have indicated to MassLive that the Celtics are strongly expected to make some kind of move ahead of the trade deadline. Keeping the team’s roster fully intact now past the guarantee deadline keeps more potential opportunities open for getting a deal done to bolster the back end of the roster.


https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2024/01/source-celtics-retain-4-players-guarantee-contracts-for-season.html

Interesting, implying they will make some sort of move. Also that guys in the $7M+ range could still be in play.

Wow. interesting. If Brad actually pulls the trigger on a move for a player who makes more than the Grant TPE, damn - we would know he is *really* serious about putting his chips in the table, going all in for the title and has gotten a big grene light from Wyc to spend whatever necessary to get that banner.

Some guys who make more than the TPE who we could *maybe* get:

-Olynyk
-Chris Boucher
-Caruso
-Delon Wright
-Isaiah Stewart
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