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Would any other team hire Joe as their HC?

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Re: Would any other team hire Joe as their HC? 

Post#61 » by Parliament10 » Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:47 pm

Fierce1 wrote:Coach of the year of 2022 Monty Williams now has a 26-game losing streak to add to his resume.

Are you guys ready for Coach of the Year Joe? :lol:

What are Celtics record in Joe Mazzulla time, going back to last year?
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Re: Would any other team hire Joe as their HC? 

Post#62 » by ParticleMan » Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:17 pm

Joe wasn't great in the playoffs last year but this idea that he will never ever improve or learn is completely ridiculous. He is already so much better this year.

Hate me if you want but I chalk up last season's choke job to Tatum, straight up. For 40+ minutes every game we played with the sort of pace and movement that Joe preaches, and then in the last part of the 4th Tatum decides it's time to pound the ball into the deck and take tough stepaway 3's. Jaylen shares a lot of blame too but it starts with Tatum, he's the leader and he's the guy with the ball in his hands late in the 4th. The offense looked totally different in closeout situations than the rest of the game, and Tatum set that tone. I seriously doubt this was Joe's plan. Instead, it looked a lot more like what Ime did the previous year.

You can say that's Joe's fault for not changing that, and that's fair. But last year was a tough situation to come into, youngest HC in the L not quite ready for the job but thrust into it basically by default. Remember Joe was an interim coach until halfway thru the season. He didn't have the authority to change drastically from what Ime did, he could just try to tweak stuff. And when push came to shove the Jays reverted to what they knew. With all its failings.

This year you can see things are different. With a full TC and full authority, with "chokehold" guys like Smart out of the way and with KP and Jrue changing our look, it is now as much Joe's team as anyone's. Occasionally we revert to bad habits like in the Warriors game but frankly that was a good lesson, and you can see they've bounced back big-time. Otherwise the offense is absolutely humming, and we are way better in close games. The defense has been much more consistent this year. And credit Joe for putting guys like Pritchard, Hauser, and Queta into situations and roles where they can contribute, this only looks obvious to fans because hindsight is 20/20. Also it's by no means easy to integrate two top players into a lineup that already had two all-NBA guys, while at the same time empowering the 5th guy to be his best self and sending a bona fide starter to the bench. All while keeping a great locker room and getting everyone to buy in. The vibe is so different from last year. Joe is running an absolute master class on player management.

I get that last year was disappointing, but in terms of Joe I'm not going to make any final pronouncements on how good a coach he is based on last year's playoffs. That would be short-sighted and dumb. So far this year he has been top notch. He is improving before our eyes, and he will be a top 5 coach if he isn't already. Enjoy it.
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Re: Would any other team hire Joe as their HC? 

Post#63 » by Fierce1 » Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:59 pm

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Fierce1 wrote:Coach of the year of 2022 Monty Williams now has a 26-game losing streak to add to his resume.

Are you guys ready for Coach of the Year Joe? :lol:

What are Celtics record in Joe Mazzulla time, going back to last year?

He's 79-31 in the regular season so far.
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Re: Would any other team hire Joe as their HC? 

Post#64 » by Parliament10 » Sun Dec 24, 2023 4:05 pm

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Parliament10 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Coach of the year of 2022 Monty Williams now has a 26-game losing streak to add to his resume.

Are you guys ready for Coach of the Year Joe? :lol:

What are Celtics record in Joe Mazzulla time, going back to last year?

He's 79-31 in the regular season so far.

That is a damn good record. About 72%.
Mazzulla is a good Coach. He jumped into a Blazing Saddle, and has Handled it very well.
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Re: Would any other team hire Joe as their HC? 

Post#65 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:42 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:Mazzulla would be my COTY just for convincing Jaylen to shift his mindset/approach of the game and empowering White to become whatever version of him we're getting right now.

I knew something was up, something changed. This is from the Globe article:

You’ve seemed to make a point of boosting up Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown in press conferences after relatively quiet statistical games. What is behind that?

JM: It’s a little bit of changing the narrative of what value is and what success looks like. For such a long time in the NBA, value is how many shots did you get and how many points did you score? Very few times do you have guys like Jaylen and Jayson welcome two other superstars [in Holiday and Kristaps Porzingis] and then empower Derrick [White], who should be an All-Star. So what I really want to do is change the lens of what value and success look like.

I think they’re way more valuable than they get credit for, because of their ability to be great teammates. And that’s not talked about or clicked on enough. The fact that one of those two guys could take 8-10 shots and keep playing hard on defense, to me that’s just as valuable as giving them the ball every time and scoring 40.

If it looked like I was putting JB down before for being just mostly a volume scorer, this is what I meant. Your top guys have to bring more than just scoring because they take the bulk of the shots.
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Post#66 » by Slax » Mon Dec 25, 2023 4:13 am

It's absolutely wild that 38% of you are saying no. :lol:
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Post#67 » by Fencer reregistered » Mon Dec 25, 2023 8:17 pm

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Fierce1 wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:What are Celtics record in Joe Mazzulla time, going back to last year?

He's 79-31 in the regular season so far.

That is a damn good record. About 72%.
Mazzulla is a good Coach. He jumped into a Blazing Saddle, and has Handled it very well.


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Post#68 » by chrisab123 » Mon Dec 25, 2023 11:20 pm

I think hes a subpar HC that said you can't sit here and tell me that the Wizards or Pistons wouldn't hire him
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Post#69 » by djFan71 » Tue Dec 26, 2023 3:31 am

The smart ones with openings, yes.
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Post#70 » by seiffert82 » Tue Dec 26, 2023 9:26 am

I understand the hate given the focus on three point shooting, but Mazzulla definitely sees the game differently to most head coaches. The players clearly respect him.

In the fullness of time I expect him to be regarded as one of the most innovative coaches in the league.

Still needs to win a championship though.

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Post#71 » by BK_2020 » Tue Dec 26, 2023 5:55 pm

ParticleMan wrote:Joe wasn't great in the playoffs last year but this idea that he will never ever improve or learn is completely ridiculous. He is already so much better this year.

Hate me if you want but I chalk up last season's choke job to Tatum, straight up. For 40+ minutes every game we played with the sort of pace and movement that Joe preaches, and then in the last part of the 4th Tatum decides it's time to pound the ball into the deck and take tough stepaway 3's. Jaylen shares a lot of blame too but it starts with Tatum, he's the leader and he's the guy with the ball in his hands late in the 4th. The offense looked totally different in closeout situations than the rest of the game, and Tatum set that tone. I seriously doubt this was Joe's plan. Instead, it looked a lot more like what Ime did the previous year.

Which game is this? Probably not games 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 since we won 4-6, got blown out in game 3 and 7. Probably not game 1 since Tatum didn't take a shot in the 4th, just 6 free throws. So game 2?
Tatum shot 3 threes in 4th quarter of game 2.
1st three = 8:55, Tatum gets the pass and with a one dribble move, gets free for an open pull up against the zone. Miss.
2nd three = 6:08, Tatum swings to Jaylen, Jaylen swings the pass back. The zone is slow to recover and Tatum has an open catch and shoot three. Miss.
3rd three = 0:12, down 4, Tatum shoots a catch and shoot three from 28 feet out. Miss.
What you describe didn't happen in game 2 and couldn't have happened in any of the other 6 games.
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Re: Would any other team hire Joe as their HC? – (Reminisce Thread) 

Post#72 » by Parliament10 » Sat Jun 1, 2024 9:14 pm

Let's look back and see.
From what we thought, to what's going on now.

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From the Start, Mazzulla was thrust into the limelight.
Found out on Friday, that he would be the (Interim) Head Coach on Monday.

But, he did pretty well. Now he's on his 2nd year, and the Celtics are back in the Finals. Not too shabby.
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