Celts Remove Heads From Rear, Smear Deer! Victory Cigar vs MIL 10/28

[Fierce1]

Cs really got better this season.

Hard to believe because they were great last season.

Really looking like the Bulls of the 90s.

I'm not going to say anything that anybody doesn't know or back it up with any quantifiable data.

But when I go back and rewatch these close games after the emotion of the outcome is removed, what I see is a team anchored with D. White and Jrue as the foundation. They raise the floor to insanely high levels, then how great we are above the competition falls to the Jay's - but White and Holiday get us there.

So many uncanny similarities between the two - but, at the core dudes that are just heady players, workers and clearly don't give a damn about a box score or where analysts place them in the pecking order. It seems like you always get the right thing at the right time from these guys to pull us out of the mud with energy shifting plays.

Just two absolutely unreal signings from Brad.

True.

You can thank Milwaukee for Jrue.

[Fierce1]

Remember how all excited Bucks fans were when they gave away Jrue and traded for Dame
?

Jrue has been even better thag I ever hoped. He's a winner and stabilising on court leader in the way Smart tried to be but couldn't.

Bucks also gave a load of future picks in that Dame deal (including this year's frp)

Yup!

Smart was all grit.

Jrue is a complete package.

Well Smart could have been Jrue but he aspired to try and become Steph instead. He’s not even on the same planet as Steph as a shooter.

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suggestion: any time the Celtics inbound to Pritchard in the backcourt to bring the ball up, the whole arena should just start counting down: "5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ..."

**regardless of time or score. Literally every time:)

[Hal14]

Voted Pritchard and Jrue.

They were excellent.

Walsh was good too, but Pritchard and Jrue were better and more impactful, imo.

[Gant]

Which means he went 8-11 against everybody else.

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[playa-hater]

I remember when PP was drafted, I did not like the Pick. I wanted Jaden McDaniels then D Bane (Boston could have had both) But did become a PP fan instantly after just a few months into his rookie year. (#2 behind the legendary BostonCoachGM) but did lament not having Bane and JM.. But how times have changed. I still really like Bane and JM but PP not only closed the Gap but may have taken over the lead. Not saying he is better than D Bane, but I can't imagine Boston without him right now.

Could/should be a starter or 6th man OTY at some point IMO.

[playa-hater]

PLEASE do not make the same mistake with J Walsh that Boston did with A Nesmith. They are not quite the same players but have similarities. Obviously young with a ton of energy. The constant playing and sitting Nesmith for games at a time clearly stifled his development. The constant, Nesmith misses some 3s = he can't shoot = he's not ready yet narrative just lead to so many overreactions.

My assertion of steady playing time = truly growing as a player has been proven far more right than wrong.

Walsh can come in early (first half) and if he is flowing or making a positive impact leave him longer. If he isn't on that day and the game is close, no problem don't play him much/at all in the second half. BUT play him every game. It's not like Boston can't use his energies anyhow.

[djFan71]

PLEASE do not make the same mistake with J Walsh that Boston did with A Nesmith. They are not quite the same players but have similarities. Obviously young with a ton of energy. The constant playing and sitting Nesmith for games at a time clearly stifled his development. The constant, Nesmith misses some 3s = he can't shoot = he's not ready yet narrative just lead to so many overreactions.

My assertion of steady playing time = truly growing as a player has been proven far more right than wrong.

Walsh can come in early (first half) and if he is flowing or making a positive impact leave him longer. If he isn't on that day and the game is close, no problem don't play him much/at all in the second half. BUT play him every game. It's not like Boston can't use his energies anyhow.

Agree 100%, but man it's gonna be tough with Hauser back and esp. KP. I hope Joe finds a way, but with KP back, you have Al, X, Hauser, PP then Walsh is at best 10th. Kornet/Queta could jump him on some nights due to matchups.

Obviously players will be out due to rest/injuries/other, so I think he'll get fairly consistent minutes, but playing every night when the team is at full strength is gonna be tough this year. I think it's get all the minutes he can, and if he earns that every night 10th guy role, awesome. If not, there's most likely some roster shuffling over the summer and he truly emerges next year. Same thing happened to Pritchard his first few years.

[playa-hater]

PLEASE do not make the same mistake with J Walsh that Boston did with A Nesmith. They are not quite the same players but have similarities. Obviously young with a ton of energy. The constant playing and sitting Nesmith for games at a time clearly stifled his development. The constant, Nesmith misses some 3s = he can't shoot = he's not ready yet narrative just lead to so many overreactions.

My assertion of steady playing time = truly growing as a player has been proven far more right than wrong.

Walsh can come in early (first half) and if he is flowing or making a positive impact leave him longer. If he isn't on that day and the game is close, no problem don't play him much/at all in the second half. BUT play him every game. It's not like Boston can't use his energies anyhow.

Agree 100%, but man it's gonna be tough with Hauser back and esp. KP. I hope Joe finds a way, but with KP back, you have Al, X, Hauser, PP then Walsh is at best 10th. Kornet/Queta could jump him on some nights due to matchups.

Obviously players will be out due to rest/injuries/other, so I think he'll get fairly consistent minutes, but playing every night when the team is at full strength is gonna be tough this year. I think it's get all the minutes he can, and if he earns that every night 10th guy role, awesome. If not, there's most likely some roster shuffling over the summer and he truly emerges next year. Same thing happened to Pritchard his first few years.

well you are correct. I was more referring to the many games Before the return of KP for sure. But with Hauser out and/or anyone else, J Walsh needs to play. I think JW and Sam can both play together as well. In the same way a "better Brissett" type could have helped Boston last season.

[djFan71]

PLEASE do not make the same mistake with J Walsh that Boston did with A Nesmith. They are not quite the same players but have similarities. Obviously young with a ton of energy. The constant playing and sitting Nesmith for games at a time clearly stifled his development. The constant, Nesmith misses some 3s = he can't shoot = he's not ready yet narrative just lead to so many overreactions.

My assertion of steady playing time = truly growing as a player has been proven far more right than wrong.

Walsh can come in early (first half) and if he is flowing or making a positive impact leave him longer. If he isn't on that day and the game is close, no problem don't play him much/at all in the second half. BUT play him every game. It's not like Boston can't use his energies anyhow.

Agree 100%, but man it's gonna be tough with Hauser back and esp. KP. I hope Joe finds a way, but with KP back, you have Al, X, Hauser, PP then Walsh is at best 10th. Kornet/Queta could jump him on some nights due to matchups.

Obviously players will be out due to rest/injuries/other, so I think he'll get fairly consistent minutes, but playing every night when the team is at full strength is gonna be tough this year. I think it's get all the minutes he can, and if he earns that every night 10th guy role, awesome. If not, there's most likely some roster shuffling over the summer and he truly emerges next year. Same thing happened to Pritchard his first few years.

well you are correct. I was more referring to the many games Before the return of KP for sure. But with Hauser out and/or anyone else, J Walsh needs to play. I think JW and Sam can both play together as well. In the same way a "better Brissett" type could have helped Boston last season.

Definitely, I've been on the Walshwagon from day "-4 months" (was my guy going into the draft). Even at full strength I think you can sneak in that stint in the first quarter you mentioned - except maybe in the bigger/tightest games. Get him in at least 60-65 games and we could have a monster. At this point, I think Maine should be out of the question.

[ConstableGeneva]

Mentioned this in the GT...

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His shooting may come and go, but his effort and ability to contribute to winning in multiple ways will always be there.

[playa-hater]

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His shooting may come and go, but his effort and ability to contribute to winning in multiple ways will always be there.

Slight disagreement. I think JT's defense ceiling should be 1st or 2nd all team defense due to abilities + versatilities. Think JT coasts on defense many times the same way he does on offense.

Peak JT is a top 3 NBA player.

EDIT... almost every great perimeter defensive player such as Pippen, M Smart, Rodman, M Cooper and even Kawhi Leanord were not the main guy on offense. It would be extremely difficult to sustain energy to be tops on both side of the ball. Jordan may be the only one I can think of. Lebron and Kobe were also high level defenders that couldn't maintain as well.

[Bad-Thoma]

When Joe put Jordan Walsh in for non-garbage minutes in a tightly contested game I heard a "doooinnnngg" noise that I'm pretty sure was playa-hater's instant erection heard all the way up the coast.

Nice job by Walsh, VC to PP and JB.

[Hal14]

PLEASE do not make the same mistake with J Walsh that Boston did with A Nesmith. They are not quite the same players but have similarities. Obviously young with a ton of energy. The constant playing and sitting Nesmith for games at a time clearly stifled his development. The constant, Nesmith misses some 3s = he can't shoot = he's not ready yet narrative just lead to so many overreactions.

My assertion of steady playing time = truly growing as a player has been proven far more right than wrong.

Funny, you could change Walsh to Springer here and the post would basically have the same meaning

Springer is closer to Nesmith (in terms of size, position, age) than Walsh is..

[Shak_Celts]

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His shooting may come and go, but his effort and ability to contribute to winning in multiple ways will always be there.

MOIST!


People (media) aren’t going to understand how hard it is to play O and D but harder to stay into it when your offense is not clicking! When people lose their offensive punch in a game, it’s a wrap for them, they only think about what some fans and media will say about their offense. They don’t think about doing everything else!

JT does and if you’re a Celtics you better!! Joe would murder you!

[playa-hater]

PLEASE do not make the same mistake with J Walsh that Boston did with A Nesmith. They are not quite the same players but have similarities. Obviously young with a ton of energy. The constant playing and sitting Nesmith for games at a time clearly stifled his development. The constant, Nesmith misses some 3s = he can't shoot = he's not ready yet narrative just lead to so many overreactions.

My assertion of steady playing time = truly growing as a player has been proven far more right than wrong.

Funny, you could change Walsh to Springer here and the post would basically have the same meaning

Springer is closer to Nesmith (in terms of size, position, age) than Walsh is..

Strong disagree just based on talent alone I don't think anywhere near as much as springer as you apparently do.

[ConstableGeneva]

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[ConstableGeneva]

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I just realized Pritchard destroyed Delon Wright, the guy I wanted PP traded for last season lol.



We really should just cede ALL decisions to SBOBO Brad. He kinda knows what he's doing.

[ConstableGeneva]

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[Hal14]

PLEASE do not make the same mistake with J Walsh that Boston did with A Nesmith. They are not quite the same players but have similarities. Obviously young with a ton of energy. The constant playing and sitting Nesmith for games at a time clearly stifled his development. The constant, Nesmith misses some 3s = he can't shoot = he's not ready yet narrative just lead to so many overreactions.

My assertion of steady playing time = truly growing as a player has been proven far more right than wrong.

Funny, you could change Walsh to Springer here and the post would basically have the same meaning

Springer is closer to Nesmith (in terms of size, position, age) than Walsh is..

Strong disagree just based on talent alone I don't think anywhere near as much as springer as you apparently do.

I didn't say anything about talent in my post..and I don't think you said anything about talent in your original post that I replied to.

All you said was Walsh and Nesmith are young with energy. And that people shouldn't judge them so harshly if they miss a 3..that they need time and development and minutes in order for them to grow as a player and reach their potential (praphrasng, of course).

I simply said the same could be said about Springer.

That's all - full stop.

Now, changing gears, are you saying that Springer has such little talent that we shouldn't even try to develop him? I thought what you have said in the past is every player in the NBA (or basically every player) has the talent, they just need the opportunity to show that talent and they need a team to develop them.

But getting back to Walsh vs Springer talent, I would think that their talent is at least comparable, considering:
-Springer was drafted 10 spots higher
-Springer was a better college player
-Springer was much better during 2024 summer league
-Springer was a better g league player (won g league finals MVP in 2023)