That Game Was a Bunch Of Bull! Loss vs CHI 12/19

[NYCelticsfan136]

I wish people wouldn't judge 3 point attempts by the amount but rather by their quality. How many of the 3 pointers attempted were considered good looks? How many came after a nice drive and kick? How many were just taking the first semi-open look early in the shot clock? Were there any back door cuts in the play? How many 3s had NO ONE even inside to rebound. How about almost never bring the ball up, not make a single pass but instead make a pullup 3 attempt?

Sometimes quality looks still do not drop. It happens. But for the most part, the higher the quality of the look, the better the odds of making them.

Boston really needs to improve the consistency of their Quality.

Also really believe Ball movement = energy. Lack thereof drains energy. That seems to me the biggest cause of our defensive lapses. No energy. Not lack of ability.

I think you mean shot selection has to be better. Either way i feel like 50 per game is too many. Go for the easier shot. Really hope those attempts go down and they focus on getting easier shots.

[Fierce1]

I wish people wouldn't judge 3 point attempts by the amount but rather by their quality. How many of the 3 pointers attempted were considered good looks? How many came after a nice drive and kick? How many were just taking the first semi-open look early in the shot clock? Were there any back door cuts in the play? How many 3s had NO ONE even inside to rebound. How about almost never bring the ball up, not make a single pass but instead make a pullup 3 attempt?

Sometimes quality looks still do not drop. It happens. But for the most part, the higher the quality of the look, the better the odds of making them.

Boston really needs to improve the consistency of their Quality.

Also really believe Ball movement = energy. Lack thereof drains energy. That seems to me the biggest cause of our defensive lapses. No energy. Not lack of ability.

I think you mean shot selection has to be better. Either way i feel like 50 per game is too many. Go for the easier shot. Really hope those attempts go down and they focus on getting easier shots.

Do you really believe they will average 50 3s in the playoffs?

[djFan71]

Should have played more Guys. That 7.5-Man Rotation wasn't working.

Yeah, Joe's answer to the starters not playing well is to keep playing them more minutes. I think 8-9 guys and give someone a shot to spark us is a better approach. I've also never coached an NBA team to a title.

Weird game overall:
- Springer played - but no Luke, Neemy, Jordan or Peterson.
- I liked LaVine.
- I even thought about Lonnie Walker for the first time, lol - though not til just now.

[redslastlaugh]

I wish people wouldn't judge 3 point attempts by the amount but rather by their quality. How many of the 3 pointers attempted were considered good looks? How many came after a nice drive and kick?

I think you mean shot selection has to be better. Either way i feel like 50 per game is too many. Go for the easier shot. Really hope those attempts go down and they focus on getting easier shots.

I agree. This iteration of the team turns down opportunities at easy 2’s… when we were shooting 35-40 3PTA this happened only occasionally during a game. Now, attempting 50, we regularly turn down driving avenues and passing lanes that are gonna result in a 2PTA.

I’ve said this 10 times but it’s almost like the current coaches view 3’s and 2’s as equal conversion opportunities, meaning the FG % is the same for both. So why shoot a 2 that can only get you 2 points when you can shoot a 3 for a max outcome of 3 points.

The team regularly, and I mean multiple times every game, turns down avenues at 70% 2s so they can shoot 35% 3PTA and it’s just wrong. If you play that decision over a 600 possession series, you LOSE series that you would otherwise win. This is what happened in 2023 when we shot 260 3PTA to Miami 200 and lost the series because we almost always chose the lower % shot and Miami did not.

Except this version of the team, shooting 50 3PTA, the math problem is worse

3PTA at 37% is 111 pts per 100 possessions
2PTA at 57% is 114 pts per 100 possessions

Over a 600 possession playoff series, the 2s are +18. And because of pressure and playoff defense, we aren’t gonna shoot 37% 3PTA

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Well, this game was the poster child why NBA ratings are completely down. 108 three pointers attempted between both teams.

When Boston can’t hit threes, this is the result of 99% of the time.

The game is becoming hard to watch. They need to move the 3 point line further back or something...

I don't even think that will stop teams. Half the time these guys are jacking shots from 10 feet beyond the three point line anyways.

Here is wha is crazy to me in regarding to the shots both teams took.

191 shots total
108 were three pointers
83 were 2 point shots.

56% of the shots were 3 points. To make this even uglier out of the 108 thee pointers both teams took we had to watch 75 of them miss. Not exactly great basketball to watch.

[31to6]

Friends you may not like hearing it, but if you are fixated on the # of 3s going up, you are likely a dinosaur.

We will hear from you after each loss.

We likely hear less from you after wins, including after the 16 wins last playoffs.

And the Cs averaged a bit over 40 3pt FGA in the playoffs last season. (41 3s a game against Dallas in the Finals, 43 per game against IND in the ECF, 38 per game against the Cavs, and 39 per game against the Heat per bball ref) (FWIW the Cs averaged 42.5 3s per game in the regular season last year)

I bet you watched and enjoyed that run. Maybe you thought you would have enjoyed it even more if they shot fewer 3s, but that's not the way the game is trending. This team has a top 8 who can all defend and shoot 3s. That's what they do. One ring down and hopefully more to go. Enjoy it while you can?

Watch on YouTube

[redslastlaugh]

Certainly appreciate your POV, but I don’t see how it follows that if we won the chip last year shooting 42.5 3PTAs per that we have made forward progress by increasing that number to 51.3 attempts this year.

There are 18 teams in the NBA with a record of .500 or better, fifteen shoot less than 40 3PTA per game, two teams shoot 41 3PTA per game, and then there us, shooting 51 threes per game… our shot profile is quite unprecedented and no other winning team is anywhere close in attempts.

Friends you may not like hearing it, but if you are fixated on the # of 3s going up, you are likely a dinosaur.

We will hear from you after each loss.

We likely hear less from you after wins, including after the 16 wins last playoffs.

And the Cs averaged a bit over 40 3pt FGA in the playoffs last season. (41 3s a game against Dallas in the Finals, 43 per game against IND in the ECF, 38 per game against the Cavs, and 39 per game against the Heat per bball ref) (FWIW the Cs averaged 42.5 3s per game in the regular season last year)

I bet you watched and enjoyed that run. Maybe you thought you would have enjoyed it even more if they shot fewer 3s, but that's not the way the game is trending. This team has a top 8 who can all defend and shoot 3s. That's what they do. One ring down and hopefully more to go. Enjoy it while you can?

Watch on YouTube

[Smart2Nesmith43]

The Celtics have built the best offense in the NBA around taking the biggest volume of threes in the entire league. The one time they don't blow out the other team in attempts they have their worse loss of their season. This is apparently proof the Celtics take too many threes