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Re: Where to from here? 

Post#141 » by Curmudgeon » Tue May 20, 2025 7:27 pm

The Nets were 26-56. They can ask all they want, but if they hold out they'll be 26-56 again next year. In fact they will be worse because half their team is hitting free agency and there are no assurances that they can attract replacements.
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Re: Where to from here? 

Post#142 » by bigboi » Wed May 21, 2025 9:11 am

Curmudgeon wrote:The trade I'd like to see is Brown to Milwaukee for Giannis. Then move Giannis to Dallas for whatever salaries need to be aggregated to make the trade work (excluding Davis and Irving), plus the rights to Cooper Flagg.


This is dumb. Flagg won’t be better than Giannis nor Brown
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Lebron made it to the finals with that cleveland team.

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Post#143 » by bigboi » Wed May 21, 2025 9:15 am

Team needs to find a way to get Naz Reid. Fits perfectly in our system. Get rid of Porzingis completely.
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Lebron made it to the finals with that cleveland team.

Bird would have won 4 rings with that team, in this weak ass era of basketball.
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Post#144 » by R-DAWG » Wed May 21, 2025 6:45 pm

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I keep coming back to White as well, as after JB he will bring in the most, and if we're being honest, he's strictly just been a 3pnt shooter and okay defender for us the past couple of years.

The trade and team I see for a White trade is HOU, who has the clearest need for him, the history with Ime who wanted him in the first place, and the fact they have a young prospect in Reed Shepard and a lottery pick that they ultimately can part ways with.

Reed, #10, and Brooks for White and Hauser works. Celtics get younger, get that dog type player in Brooks, Reed was the #3 pick last year, a great shooter, and uber athlete, and we can get the best player that falls to 10. HOU improves their 3pnt shooting drastically, gets a lead guard that plays D and is a perfect compliment for their young guys, and if Hauser is in the deal, one of the best bench shooters in the game. They will also free up more time for Amen, Tari, and Cam this way. The trade just looks too perfect for both teams. If they are out of the Giannis sweepstakes, I actually like this type of trade for them over someone like KD who they have been rumored to.

The team for KP I see is CHI. They want to win now, and have some contracts that we can swap with. They have the #12 pick, which is solid, and again could work something out. Doing something like Huerter, Collins, and #12 for KP, Tillman, and #28. They get a massive upgrade in talent with KP over Huerter just for swapping picks. Celtics get 2 contracts that are easier to move and expirering next year, Huerter is a solid bench piece, and then obviously we get the 12 pick.

I wish IND wasn't a rival team, because I would be looking at Benedict MAthurin too as one of these young guys we could try to get


I would say the teams in the White/Holiday sweepstakes are Sacramento, Orlando and San Antonio.


Kings have nothing to offer. No picks and the players they have under contract is who they need to compete next season.

Orlando's financial issue is any move like Jrue or White would put them over the 2nd apron next season. I think they will do the right thing and pick up Mo's team option which would put them at 185mil.

Their other issue is health. If I'm them, I would sit tight because Suggs should make them better without having to make any drastic moves.

I like a #28 and a future pick to move to #25 though. That's doable and increases that draft value if used in another trade.


Kings have excess draft capital from the Fox trade. And frankly, DeRozan for Holiday might be fair market value.

I could see Orlando being a Porzingis destination - maybe for Jonathan Isaac and Cole Anthony.
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Re: Where to from here? 

Post#145 » by OnlyTheTruth » Thu May 22, 2025 5:10 am

Would you guys have KD here at this point in his career. 36 yrs old does not get us any younger.

If the Celtics won that draft many acknowleged Danny would of picked Durant over Greg Oden. Durant and Tim Duncan....both slipped away
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Post#146 » by Fierce1 » Thu May 22, 2025 5:40 am

OnlyTheTruth wrote:Would you guys have KD here at this point in his career. 36 yrs old does not get us any younger.

If the Celtics won that draft many acknowleged Danny would of picked Durant over Greg Oden. Durant and Tim Duncan....both slipped away

A KD acquisition would mean ticket sales.

Just to bridge a year without JT.

Celtics need to shed salary anyway.

And it will be very intriguing to think about a JT, JB, and KD Big 3 in 2026-27.

Cs will have to trade White for KD and Jrue and KP would have to go as well.
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Re: Where to from here? 

Post#147 » by shi-woo » Thu May 22, 2025 8:15 am

OnlyTheTruth wrote:Would you guys have KD here at this point in his career. 36 yrs old does not get us any younger.

If the Celtics won that draft many acknowleged Danny would of picked Durant over Greg Oden. Durant and Tim Duncan....both slipped away


The KD ship sailed in 2018 after that run to the ECF, and Kyrie turncoating to BRK. He's not that guy anymore, and would not even remotely fit personality wise, or financially.

KD on this team would be a sad day. Tatum is most likely out for year, what in the world are we going to be doing with a player looking to retire in the next couple of years. That type of move has the vibes of Heat trading for Jermain ONeil, Cavs for Ben Wallace/Jameson, ect. Just a dumb move to bring in a name your casual friend from work knows, but ultimately does nothing for the team and holds you back.

If Celtics add any player over the age of 28 onto this roster with JT out and all our other issues, i'd be disappointed.
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Post#148 » by Fencer reregistered » Thu May 22, 2025 8:50 am

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OnlyTheTruth wrote:Would you guys have KD here at this point in his career. 36 yrs old does not get us any younger.

If the Celtics won that draft many acknowleged Danny would of picked Durant over Greg Oden. Durant and Tim Duncan....both slipped away


The KD ship sailed in 2018 after that run to the ECF, and Kyrie turncoating to BRK. He's not that guy anymore, and would not even remotely fit personality wise, or financially.

KD on this team would be a sad day. Tatum is most likely out for year, what in the world are we going to be doing with a player looking to retire in the next couple of years. That type of move has the vibes of Heat trading for Jermain ONeil, Cavs for Ben Wallace/Jameson, ect. Just a dumb move to bring in a name your casual friend from work knows, but ultimately does nothing for the team and holds you back.

If Celtics add any player over the age of 28 onto this roster with JT out and all our other issues, i'd be disappointed.


KD is usually resistant to being coached.

So he's not a guy you want to bring into the locker room.
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Re: Where to from here? 

Post#149 » by brackdan70 » Thu May 22, 2025 12:30 pm

bigboi wrote:Team needs to find a way to get Naz Reid. Fits perfectly in our system. Get rid of Porzingis completely.

Any ideas how to get him. Minnesota highly values him obviously and they are in a difficult cap management situation as well so a third or 4th team needs to facilitate.
Going to have to give up a lot of value. Combined with the need to reduce short and long term salary it seems pretty unrealistic
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Re: Where to from here? 

Post#150 » by ConstableGeneva » Thu May 22, 2025 12:44 pm

KP and Jrue aren't as untradeable as some on here make them out to be. Those guys can contribute on a contending team when healthy. Some might think twice about Jrue's contract length but at 30M per, it's still a decent contract if he's given the right role (he was quite under-utilized under Joe on offense). KP is expiring and shouldn't be that hard to move.

Brad just needs to be creative with the multi-team trades. He's the same guy who got KP + two firsts for Smart. I trust he can get **** done.
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Post#151 » by phincsfan » Thu May 22, 2025 1:19 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:KP and Jrue aren't as untradeable as some on here make them out to be. Those guys can contribute on a contending team when healthy. Some might think twice about Jrue's contract length but at 30M per, it's still a decent contract if he's given the right role (he was quite under-utilized under Joe on offense). KP is expiring and shouldn't be that hard to move.

Brad just needs to be creative with the multi-team trades. He's the same guy who got KP + two firsts for Smart. I trust he can get **** done.


Jrue will definitely garner interest.

As for KP, hopefully there's a team who's roster is deep enough to protect itself from any missed games he probably will have and feel that he may stay healthy enough to work for one last mini deal.
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Re: Where to from here? 

Post#152 » by phincsfan » Thu May 22, 2025 3:34 pm

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Jrue will definitely garner interest.

As for KP, hopefully there's a team who's roster is deep enough to protect itself from any missed games he probably will have and feel that he may stay healthy enough to work for one last mini deal.


Some posters think that KP is still a prize at 30mil :crazy:

There are a few teams who could take a chance if they have a pretty good frontcourt and won't depend on him playing 60+ games. He's only played 60+ games 3 times in his career and the last time was 3 years ago.

Nuggets, Magic, Grizzlies are three teams that have decent depth so that he'd not so depended on.

Nuggets need to make room but in a multi team trade it can be done.

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Re: Where to from here? 

Post#153 » by ConstableGeneva » Thu May 22, 2025 4:48 pm

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ConstableGeneva wrote:KP and Jrue aren't as untradeable as some on here make them out to be. Those guys can contribute on a contending team when healthy. Some might think twice about Jrue's contract length but at 30M per, it's still a decent contract if he's given the right role (he was quite under-utilized under Joe on offense). KP is expiring and shouldn't be that hard to move.

Brad just needs to be creative with the multi-team trades. He's the same guy who got KP + two firsts for Smart. I trust he can get **** done.


Jrue will definitely garner interest.

As for KP, hopefully there's a team who's roster is deep enough to protect itself from any missed games he probably will have and feel that he may stay healthy enough to work for one last mini deal.

Expiring for expirings is a deal that doesn't force the Cs to attach assets. You just need one team.
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Re: Where to from here? 

Post#154 » by 165bows » Thu May 22, 2025 4:54 pm

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bigboi wrote:Team needs to find a way to get Naz Reid. Fits perfectly in our system. Get rid of Porzingis completely.

Any ideas how to get him. Minnesota highly values him obviously and they are in a difficult cap management situation as well so a third or 4th team needs to facilitate.
Going to have to give up a lot of value. Combined with the need to reduce short and long term salary it seems pretty unrealistic

It’s all up to Reid imo he’s in a similar (but not identical) situation as Porzingis was when Celtics got KP. Thing was KP really wanted to be here and Boston could afford to pay him.

Not sure either one or both is the case with Reid but he’d be a nice but unlikely get.
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Post#155 » by King Ken » Thu May 22, 2025 7:22 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:KP and Jrue aren't as untradeable as some on here make them out to be. Those guys can contribute on a contending team when healthy. Some might think twice about Jrue's contract length but at 30M per, it's still a decent contract if he's given the right role (he was quite under-utilized under Joe on offense). KP is expiring and shouldn't be that hard to move.

Brad just needs to be creative with the multi-team trades. He's the same guy who got KP + two firsts for Smart. I trust he can get **** done.

They aren't untradeable but you need someone to take a significant portion of their salary without giving any back. Only Brooklyn can do that

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