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Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2

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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#481 » by Parliament10 » Yesterday 11:43 pm

Gant wrote:The Celtics letting Bassey go could indicate that Tillman will be able to play this season. Otherwise the roster only has two centers and one power forward, plus a two-way center. That's not enough if there's an injury.

Yeah. I strongly believe that we need another Center.


Fierce1 wrote:From what I saw in summer league play, Bassey gives you rebounds and inside scoring.

But his switchability on defense was not good.

He had trouble defending on the perimeter also.

So maybe that's why the Cs opted for Boucher.

Tillman and Boucher are Power Forwards, IMO. I don't think that either is that good at Center.
They definitely can't Start at Center.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#482 » by Fierce1 » Yesterday 11:51 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
Gant wrote:The Celtics letting Bassey go could indicate that Tillman will be able to play this season. Otherwise the roster only has two centers and one power forward, plus a two-way center. That's not enough if there's an injury.

Yeah. I strongly believe that we need another Center.


Fierce1 wrote:From what I saw in summer league play, Bassey gives you rebounds and inside scoring.

But his switchability on defense was not good.

He had trouble defending on the perimeter also.

So maybe that's why the Cs opted for Boucher.

Tillman and Boucher are Power Forwards, IMO. I don't think that either is that good at Center.
They definitely can't Start at Center.

That's why I strongly believe Simons and Hauser for Vucevic and Coby White is the way to go.

Right now it's Queta and Garza at Center.

It's not ideal, but it's only the start of the season.

Brad can make a move during the season.

I don't think this is the roster we'll be seeing the entire season.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#483 » by Parliament10 » Yesterday 11:55 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
Gant wrote:The Celtics letting Bassey go could indicate that Tillman will be able to play this season. Otherwise the roster only has two centers and one power forward, plus a two-way center. That's not enough if there's an injury.

Yeah. I strongly believe that we need another Center.


Fierce1 wrote:From what I saw in summer league play, Bassey gives you rebounds and inside scoring.

But his switchability on defense was not good.

He had trouble defending on the perimeter also.

So maybe that's why the Cs opted for Boucher.

Tillman and Boucher are Power Forwards, IMO. I don't think that either is that good at Center.
They definitely can't Start at Center.

That's why I strongly believe Simons and Hauser for Vucevic and Coby White is the way to go.

Right now it's Queta and Garza at Center.

It's not ideal, but it's only the start of the season.

Brad can make a move during the season.

I don't think this is the roster we'll be seeing the entire season.

Why would the Bulls do that?
It doesn't seem feasible, at this time?
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#484 » by brackdan70 » Yesterday 11:59 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
Gant wrote:The Celtics letting Bassey go could indicate that Tillman will be able to play this season. Otherwise the roster only has two centers and one power forward, plus a two-way center. That's not enough if there's an injury.

Yeah. I strongly believe that we need another Center.


Fierce1 wrote:From what I saw in summer league play, Bassey gives you rebounds and inside scoring.

But his switchability on defense was not good.

He had trouble defending on the perimeter also.

So maybe that's why the Cs opted for Boucher.

Tillman and Boucher are Power Forwards, IMO. I don't think that either is that good at Center.
They definitely can't Start at Center.

That's why I strongly believe Simons and Hauser for Vucevic and Coby White is the way to go.

Right now it's Queta and Garza at Center.

It's not ideal, but it's only the start of the season.

Brad can make a move during the season.

I don't think this is the roster we'll be seeing the entire season.

I agree we need another playable center at some point but not necessarily this season even.
We need to be planning for 2026/27 and Vuc doesn’t do us any good .
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#485 » by Parliament10 » Today 12:05 am

brackdan70 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:Yeah. I strongly believe that we need another Center.



Tillman and Boucher are Power Forwards, IMO. I don't think that either is that good at Center.
They definitely can't Start at Center.

That's why I strongly believe Simons and Hauser for Vucevic and Coby White is the way to go.

Right now it's Queta and Garza at Center.

It's not ideal, but it's only the start of the season.

Brad can make a move during the season.

I don't think this is the roster we'll be seeing the entire season.

I agree we need another playable center at some point but not necessarily this season even.
We need to be planning for 2026/27 and Vuc doesn’t do us any good .

I think that we need to do both.:
1) focus on Development this year.
2) prepare for the Playoffs.

We essentially have to Plan to be without Tatum. While trying to make the Playoffs.
And then, if Tatum does come back, in some reasonable form, then we make a clearer Playoff Push.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#486 » by Fierce1 » Today 12:08 am

Parliament10 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:Yeah. I strongly believe that we need another Center.



Tillman and Boucher are Power Forwards, IMO. I don't think that either is that good at Center.
They definitely can't Start at Center.

That's why I strongly believe Simons and Hauser for Vucevic and Coby White is the way to go.

Right now it's Queta and Garza at Center.

It's not ideal, but it's only the start of the season.

Brad can make a move during the season.

I don't think this is the roster we'll be seeing the entire season.

Why would the Bulls do that?
It doesn't seem feasible, at this time?

Cs would have to give up a 1st rnd pick for the Bulls to consider it.

But I think Simons will be playing for the Cs on opening night.

Maybe down the road that trade proposal will become feasible if things don't work out for the Bulls or the Celtics or both.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#487 » by Hal14 » Today 1:10 am

Parliament10 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:That's why I strongly believe Simons and Hauser for Vucevic and Coby White is the way to go.

Right now it's Queta and Garza at Center.

It's not ideal, but it's only the start of the season.

Brad can make a move during the season.

I don't think this is the roster we'll be seeing the entire season.

I agree we need another playable center at some point but not necessarily this season even.
We need to be planning for 2026/27 and Vuc doesn’t do us any good .

I think that we need to do both.:
1) focus on Development this year.
2) prepare for the Playoffs.

We essentially have to Plan to be without Tatum. While trying to make the Playoffs.
And then, if Tatum does come back, in some reasonable form, then we make a clearer Playoff Push.

Tatum has a torn ACL..is likely to miss the entire season.

And we reduced payroll + tax by by nearly $200mil this offseason - there's no record of any team in NBA history reducing their payroll + tax bll by that much in one offseason.

In the words of Jim Mora:



I don't think Brad is very concerned with the playoffs this season. The goal is reduce payroll, develop our young guys, load manage our vets and start figuring out what the roster will look like when we're ready to compete for titles again in the 26-27 season.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#488 » by Hal14 » Today 2:01 am

Parliament10 wrote:I strongly believe that we need another Center.

Well, we don't really have any roster spots available to sign another one.

We're at the maximum 21 guys on offseason roster. And have 14 guys signed to standard contracts - and are unlikely to go with 15, for $ savings and flexibility reasons.

Queta, Garza, Tillman, Boucher, Amari Williams. That's 5 guys who can play the 5. It'll be alright..especially during a bridge year when we're not really even trying to win..we'll make sure we have enough depth/talent at the 5 for the 26-27 season, when Tatum is healthy and we're chasing titles again.

Parliament10 wrote:Tillman and Boucher are Power Forwards, IMO. I don't think that either is that good at Center.
They definitely can't Start at Center.

Tillman is more of a center imo. He's like 250 lbs and has a 7'2" wingspan. Most guys with measurements like that are centers. He started at center in the playoffs for Memphis. Most of his mins in the NBA have been at the 5.

Here's how many games each has started in their NBA careers:

Tillman: 60
Boucher: 23
Bassey: 3

Boucher is more of a 4 but has also proven to be an effective small ball 5 option, especially since he has a 7'4" wingspan along with solid shot blocking ability.

Queta will likely be our starting center though. Garza might start some games as well, if Queta has to sit out.

I think we'll be ok..and if our center rotation isn't great then we get a better draft pick so it's a win-win :)
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