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Re: Welcome to Boston, Baylor Scheierman! 

Post#601 » by redslastlaugh » Sat Oct 18, 2025 7:09 pm

At the end of last season, I thought it was 100% chance Brad picks up Scheierman's 3rd year option -- I think it's only for $2.75 million.

But after Baylor crapped his pants in SL and preseason, I really think it's more like a 60%-40% decision with the 60% being Brad DOES pick up the option.

Baylor's setup game and overall feel is there -- as bad as he's been in preseason, in 75 minutes he has 11 assists. Eleven assists is 3rd most over the preseason after White and Pritchard. But Baylor offsets the 11 assists with 11 turnovers and he is a net -5 in his minutes. All of the roster players (ex rookies) are positive plus/minus for the preseason, except Scheierman...

I always hang onto to the dream on our rookies for too long, so I'm not ready to give up on BS entirely. But I am almost there, lol ... Still, I guess I hope Brad picks up the 3rd year and that Baylor gets it together. But I dunno, man ... Brad may just decide to cut his losses

bucknersrevenge wrote:Unfortunately, fair or unfair, Brad's patience probably extends no further beyond this season. Minott is 22. Hugo is 19 and right now they look like they have passed him and have shown the ability to contribute to winning in many ways. They may not be ready to move him right now but it's definitely gonna be an uphill climb from here. They can choose not to pick up his option before the season starts and let him expire after this season along with Simons or anyone else they feel like won't fit after this season.
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Post#602 » by Hal14 » Thu Oct 30, 2025 7:07 pm

My take on Baylor's option for next season being picked up:

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Post#603 » by redslastlaugh » Thu Oct 30, 2025 7:25 pm

Pretty much agree with this.

Bummer that we didn't draft Ajay Mitchell though or a couple of other guys... but Baylor's career is not dead, not by a long shot

Hal14 wrote:My take on Baylor's option for next season being picked up:

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Post#604 » by Hal14 » Thu Oct 30, 2025 7:29 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Pretty much agree with this.

Bummer that we didn't draft Ajay Mitchell though or a couple of other guys... but Baylor's career is not dead, not by a long shot

Hal14 wrote:My take on Baylor's option for next season being picked up:

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Ya..will be interesting to see if perhaps he starts playing better now, with this weight lifted off his shoulders...might start playing with more confidence.

He may have been putting a bit of pressure on himself, playing scared before, thinking that the team might not pick the option up and there's a chance he's out of the league next season.
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Post#605 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Oct 30, 2025 9:17 pm

He defended well last night.
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Post#606 » by brackdan70 » Fri Oct 31, 2025 12:43 pm

Picking up the option is the right thing to do. There is still a chance and is cheap. He is my least favorite Celtic right now and there are likely second round picks next year that I think are better, so I don’t love him taking up a roster spot, but oh well.
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Post#607 » by meatball sub » Fri Oct 31, 2025 1:16 pm

i definitely dont want this guy on the team anymore bc he sucks, but you pretty much have to pick up the option in the hopes he suddenly turns it around or you can at least possibly use him as salary filler. otherwise you just let him walk down the line. wasted pick atm
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Post#608 » by cloverleaf » Fri Oct 31, 2025 10:10 pm

I think Rico's been put on a decent plan at Brad's request: 5-10 minutes a game as long as he doesn't hurt them to see if he can become the "best version of himself".
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Post#609 » by JimmyPlopper » Fri Oct 31, 2025 11:11 pm

meatball sub wrote:i definitely dont want this guy on the team anymore bc he sucks, but you pretty much have to pick up the option in the hopes he suddenly turns it around or you can at least possibly use him as salary filler. otherwise you just let him walk down the line. wasted pick atm


To be fair, most 30th overall picks don't pan out, so I wouldn't call it a wasted pick as much as it is a general expectation with selection 30th. But I agree that picking up his option at such a low value makes sense
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Post#610 » by Marvel » Sat Nov 1, 2025 2:06 am

Complete zero toinght. He did pick up 1 foul though.
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Post#611 » by Fierce1 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 2:11 am

Marvel wrote:Complete zero toinght. He did pick up 1 foul though.

Baylor's going to be gone soon.
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Post#612 » by 31to6 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 2:41 am

Marvel wrote:Complete zero toinght. He did pick up 1 foul though.


he did play with his pants on fire (or close to it), which is the mission statement for Celtics wings this year. So not a loss for Baylor tonight in my book
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Post#613 » by darrendaye » Sat Nov 1, 2025 4:20 am

31to6 wrote:
Marvel wrote:Complete zero toinght. He did pick up 1 foul though.


he did play with his pants on fire (or close to it), which is the mission statement for Celtics wings this year. So not a loss for Baylor tonight in my book


Not included in the offensive flow. Minott suffered from that tonight as well. One screen he set, otherwise stuck in a corner or floating on the perimeter. Scheierman's key skill as a passer and connector in atrophy by design.
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Post#614 » by ThePigeon » Sat Nov 1, 2025 11:49 am

I think he played well against Cleveland
Played good defense on Mitchell, especially denying the ball. And he is our best guard rebounder

He should handle the ball some more, so he can't play with PP. Handling the ball more means he needs to clean his heat checks and dumb shots

I don't want to give up on him yet. Nesmith vibes (I know, Baylor is older, less athletic etc - I don't mean he will be Nesmith caliber player - just don't give up too early).
Just put in the work in training and try to execute when getting playing time
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Post#615 » by brackdan70 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 2:14 pm

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meatball sub wrote:i definitely dont want this guy on the team anymore bc he sucks, but you pretty much have to pick up the option in the hopes he suddenly turns it around or you can at least possibly use him as salary filler. otherwise you just let him walk down the line. wasted pick atm


To be fair, most 30th overall picks don't pan out, so I wouldn't call it a wasted pick as much as it is a general expectation with selection 30th. But I agree that picking up his option at such a low value makes sense

This is true. He was the 30th pick on a bad draft and based on basketball reference advanced stats he is out performing his draft position. However, because of his age, you would hope for better. There was at least one guy on the board that seemed like a no brainer for the Cs to draft. That plays into my opinion.
Also I think we should be giving other dudes his minutes.
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Post#616 » by 31to6 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 2:45 pm

darrendaye wrote:
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Marvel wrote:Complete zero toinght. He did pick up 1 foul though.


he did play with his pants on fire (or close to it), which is the mission statement for Celtics wings this year. So not a loss for Baylor tonight in my book


Not included in the offensive flow. Minott suffered from that tonight as well. One screen he set, otherwise stuck in a corner or floating on the perimeter. Scheierman's key skill as a passer and connector in atrophy by design.


I'm fine with this, since I spent most of summer league and more of the preseason than I would've liked watching Baylor struggle to sort of try to play point guard. If that'd worked, cool, but it didn't seem to, so get him focused on playing defense, rebounding, hustling, and being a spot-up shooter -- his 3PTFG% might bounce back. That seems a more likely pathway for him to help the team than being a crappy, out-of-position 3rd string PG. If and when he -- in the natural flow of being a 3 and D wing -- gets a chance to utilize his playmaking, cool. I guess I've taken a long way to agree with your 'atrophy by design' statement -- not sure if you're being critical of that or not (no big deal either way)
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Post#617 » by darrendaye » Sat Nov 1, 2025 2:56 pm

31to6 wrote:
darrendaye wrote:
31to6 wrote:
he did play with his pants on fire (or close to it), which is the mission statement for Celtics wings this year. So not a loss for Baylor tonight in my book


Not included in the offensive flow. Minott suffered from that tonight as well. One screen he set, otherwise stuck in a corner or floating on the perimeter. Scheierman's key skill as a passer and connector in atrophy by design.


I'm fine with this, since I spent most of summer league and more of the preseason than I would've liked watching Baylor struggle to sort of try to play point guard. If that'd worked, cool, but it didn't seem to, so get him focused on playing defense, rebounding, hustling, and being a spot-up shooter -- his 3PTFG% might bounce back. That seems a more likely pathway for him to help the team than being a crappy, out-of-position 3rd string PG. If and when he -- in the natural flow of being a 3 and D wing -- gets a chance to utilize his playmaking, cool. I guess I've taken a long way to agree with your 'atrophy by design' statement -- not sure if you're being critical of that or not (no big deal either way)


I was being modestly critical. IMO his offensive fit is being the 3rd ballhandler on the units he's in there. I equated him to Marcus Smart, where HIS role SHOULD have been once they ushered in the Tatum alpha era. The guy whose main role is getting the ball from one side to the other for your 2 primary scorers or being a zone buster with flashes to the high post. The guy making one last pass.

EDIT: On rewatch, wasn't as bad as I sensed it was. He did operate above the break more than I thought, just didn't get the ball. He was out there a relatively short time in my defense lol.
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