Rajon needs to get going

PPAW4Life · Post #1 » by **PPAW4Life** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:51 pm

Imagine if Rondo has even a "half way decent" outside jumper. It would make our offense sooo much easier.

Rajon seemed to be making those open J's earlier in year, but he has been awful for like the last month and half.

Case in point: today's game against the Magic, Pierce works so hard to get to the rim to get swallowed by Magic defenders that he sets up Rondo for at least 2 open J's in the 2nd half and Rondo misses them both.

I will be so happy if Rondo can get a half way decent jump shot.

Post #2 » by **darrendaye** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:55 pm

If he gets a jumper, he's a near all-star. As is, he's an impact guy and a fair starter level player.

BrokenLeftyJumper · Post #3 » by **BrokenLeftyJumper** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:03 pm

Rajon missed two open jump shots, so what? It happens to the best of them. Eddie House couldn't buy a basket today and he's got a damn good jump shot.

Rondo was the C's second best player today behind Pierce. I thought he played awesome. He was aggressive and took it at Arroyo all game. Rondo needs to play with this type of aggression more often, he can straight up destroy guys off the dribble, but it seems like sometimes he's too passive. I've been a little disappointed with his defense at times this year, but on offense he's way better than I thought he would be. I don't know why they don't let him just eviscerate some of these wack PG's like he did tonight against Arroyo. Or like he did against Crawford. Then there will be nights where he goes up against Telfair or somebody he should take to the basket all game and plays like he's wearing a leash attached to the bench.

Post #4 » by **darrendaye** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:04 pm

Excellent call all around BLJ.

return2glory · Post #5 » by **return2glory** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:06 pm

Rondo was great today. Rondo has been playing hurt of late. The jump shot will come. What we need him to do is stay healthy, create shots for himself and most improtantly his teammates. We need Rondo to harass the other teams PG's, rebound and get get the breal going. All things he did today.

If Rondo can be consistant with his jump shot, he has a chance to be one of the top PG's in this league. People forget he is still only 21 years old.

cfan79 · Post #6 » by **cfan79** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:07 pm

I think Rajon has looked really good in most of the games this season. He has improved his shot tremendously by working with Ray. Plus he especially played well defensively against Arroyo in the Orlando game.

Man_Up · Post #7 » by **Man_Up** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:08 pm

darrendaye wrote:If he gets a jumper, he's a near all-star. As is, he's an impact guy and a fair starter level player.

What's sad is he had the jumper and then it just disappeared. I definitely feel he could play like this consistently if he played with the same intensity. Almost every time one of the big three goes down he has a game like this. The only difference is he's more aggressive. The shots that he was getting for Powe he could easily create for Garnett.

Post #8 » by **darrendaye** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:13 pm

Man_Up wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

What's sad is he had the jumper and then it just disappeared. I definitely feel he could play like this consistently if he played with the same intensity. Almost every time one of the big three goes down he has a game like this. The only difference is he's more aggressive. The shots that he was getting for Powe he could easily create for Garnett.

Part of it could just be a matter of having no choice but give him the ball more frequently with one of the Big 3 out. Kind of a chicken and egg argument at this point. With KG and Pierce wanting to be distributors, you're cutting off Rondo's legs to some degree and putting him well off the play on many occasions.

MaxwellSmart · Post #9 » by **MaxwellSmart** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:18 pm

don't be surprised if Rondo misses the next game after being stepped on today(his ankle)

BrokenLeftyJumper · Post #10 » by **BrokenLeftyJumper** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:18 pm

What's sad is he had the jumper and then it just disappeared. I definitely feel he could play like this consistently if he played with the same intensity. Almost every time one of the big three goes down he has a game like this. The only difference is he's more aggressive. The shots that he was getting for Powe he could easily create for Garnett.

The thing is when Garnett is playing, Rondo has far fewer opportunities to create because of the number of plays that run through Garnett. Also, teams are far less likely to leave Garnett like they are with Powe.

I wish Rondo would be more balanced with his aggressiveness. The games where one of the big three is out, he steps up big-time and usually wreaks havoc. Other games when the squad is at full-strength, he sometimes seems content to hang back. If he could even this out, and bring a consistent level of aggressiveness in every game, then he'd be a poor man's Tony Parker and we wouldn't need to be talking about Damon Stoudamire and other assorted bums.

I think the thing that would help this team the most would if Rondo just based his aggressiveness on his matchup. He should be licking his chops going up against some of the bozo PG's in the East, you could seem him doing that today against Arroyo and I think Rondo's eyes pop out of his head when he sees Jamal Crawford trying to check him. Just gotta question games like Friday night when he matched against Telfair and it didn't seem like it clicked in his head that Telfair = easy buckets.

Man_Up · Post #11 » by **Man_Up** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:49 pm

darrendaye wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Part of it could just be a matter of having no choice but give him the ball more frequently with one of the Big 3 out. Kind of a chicken and egg argument at this point. With KG and Pierce wanting to be distributors, you're cutting off Rondo's legs to some degree and putting him well off the play on many occasions.

The thing is that it looked like Rondo was driving the lane early in the shot clock and pulling it out if he found nothing. So he really didn't dominate the ball he just tested the waters a bit and passed it out if nothing was there. He didn't waste a lot of time on the shot clock, and there was still time to run something. He could definitely do the same with all of them in the line up just not as often.

I definitely agree with you BLJ, Rondo definitely needs to find a middle-ground. He's way better at doing it this season then he was the last, so i guess we can take it as a experience thing.

BillessuR6 · Post #12 » by **BillessuR6** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:05 pm

After a few poor games Rondo played excellent today.

And if he can develop that jumper he will be an allstar PG one day. He has been off lately but with a lot of work he can make it work.

Post #13 » by **UGA Hayes** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:06 pm

BrokenLeftyJumper wrote:
What's sad is he had the jumper and then it just disappeared. I definitely feel he could play like this consistently if he played with the same intensity. Almost every time one of the big three goes down he has a game like this. The only difference is he's more aggressive. The shots that he was getting for Powe he could easily create for Garnett.

The thing is when Garnett is playing, Rondo has far fewer opportunities to create because of the number of plays that run through Garnett. Also, teams are far less likely to leave Garnett like they are with Powe.

I wish Rondo would be more balanced with his aggressiveness. The games where one of the big three is out, he steps up big-time and usually wreaks havoc. Other games when the squad is at full-strength, he sometimes seems content to hang back. If he could even this out, and bring a consistent level of aggressiveness in every game, then he'd be a poor man's Tony Parker and we wouldn't need to be talking about Damon Stoudamire and other assorted bums.

I think the thing that would help this team the most would if Rondo just based his aggressiveness on his matchup. He should be licking his chops going up against some of the bozo PG's in the East, you could seem him doing that today against Arroyo and I think Rondo's eyes pop out of his head when he sees Jamal Crawford trying to check him. Just gotta question games like Friday night when he matched against Telfair and it didn't seem like it clicked in his head that Telfair = easy buckets.

Spot on! I for one wouldn't mind Rondo haveing a 3-12 game or something if it means he is aggressive. I've seen people complain that he is too aggressive in some of his games, ususally when he misses a shot, but I firmly believe alot of Rondo's problems are mental, in that he needs to be given permission to go after a team.

jfs1000d · Post #14 » by **jfs1000d** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:45 pm

Just consistency. I would say 3 out of every 10 games he is a non-factor. That is too often for a starting PG in this league. The great ones are always a factor.

Post #15 » by **darrendaye** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:52 pm

jfs1000d wrote:Just consistency. I would say 3 out of every 10 games he is a non-factor. That is too often for a starting PG in this league. The great ones are always a factor.

I don't know about that ratio, it could be right I guess, but, he's experienced a drop since late December. Prior to that, even in most games when he was a non-scoring factor, he achieved 5 assists and/or contributed with positional above average production in terms of steals or rebounds. He's been through a putrid January and some of that is the injuries. He went a long stretch of games poor assist games to boot.

Man_Up · Post #16 » by **Man_Up** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:43 pm

UGA Hayes wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Spot on! I for one wouldn't mind Rondo haveing a 3-12 game or something if it means he is aggressive. I've seen people complain that he is too aggressive in some of his games, ususally when he misses a shot, but I firmly believe alot of Rondo's problems are mental, in that he needs to be given permission to go after a team.

I think that's part of the problem he needs to get permission. We all know how short a leash Doc likes to run his point guards on.

BrokenLeftyJumper · Post #17 » by **BrokenLeftyJumper** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:14 am

2008 draft: On the Jamont Gordon Bandwagon

Did you see that pass Gordon threw behind his head in traffic last night? Absolutely sick.

Post #18 » by **darrendaye** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:12 am

BrokenLeftyJumper wrote:
2008 draft: On the Jamont Gordon Bandwagon

Did you see that pass Gordon threw behind his head in traffic last night? Absolutely sick.

Unfortunately no. :cry:

The way he's playing recently, the dream may be over as he could well take a Stuckey-esque rise up the charts whenever he applies for the draft. Likely out of reach for the Celts.

chakdaddy · Post #19 » by **chakdaddy** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:21 am

He played much more aggressively, a good sign.

GuyClinch · Post #20 » by **GuyClinch** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:59 am

The good sign is that we might get Damon S. - IMHO.. Rondo is a nice prospect but kinda overrated around here. Don't get me wrong Rondo > Sergio but we could use an upgrade on the offensive end for the stretch run and the playoffs.

One thing about Rondo that irks me - just like West is his body. It's simply WAY to scrawny for an NBA PG. Quickness is nice and all but you need some physical strength to make the most of it.

Pete