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Post#1 » by hiphop1 » Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:28 pm

I am startin to believe he will be traded when his contract is an expiring. I thought maybe we woul resign him but now I see he is haveing a hard time being the second or thir wheel. He wxpiring will net us a good player when that time comes.
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Post#2 » by cisco » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:45 pm

I agree he will probably be traded around that time, but I don't think it has anything to do with him struggling. That's just a solid plan to replace an aging star when his contract is expiring, whether he is struggling or not. Michael Redd's contract is up at the same time and he would be the perfect replacement for Ray.
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Post#3 » by daveisceltics » Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:43 pm

When does D-Wade expire?
I think Pierce and KG along with Wade would be unstoppable.
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Post#4 » by celticfan42487 » Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:52 pm

Were not going to be able to trade a washed up all-star for a young one just because he's expiring guys.

There have been expirings that have just expired on a team... and we'll probuly be in that situation because we won't have any young talent to add to a deal for a good player. That our we will take a bad contract back to make.. a run at a title? Nah by then we should be looking around and thinking about rebuilding.
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Post#5 » by cisco » Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:20 pm

celticfan42487 wrote:Were not going to be able to trade a washed up all-star for a young one just because he's expiring guys.

There have been expirings that have just expired on a team... and we'll probuly be in that situation because we won't have any young talent to add to a deal for a good player. That our we will take a bad contract back to make.. a run at a title? Nah by then we should be looking around and thinking about rebuilding.


Ray doesn't have to be traded FOR Redd. Redd will be a free agent and we could just sign him.
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Post#6 » by tombattor » Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:30 pm

I don't think the problem is on Ray. He's the one that's had to make the biggest adjustments to his game. I think Doc has to do a better job of running more plays for him. We already have a ton of sets for Pierce and KG, we run, but not as many for Ray.

Part of his struggles late has to do with that too. But from what I've seen this year, I fully expect him to get better integrated and play better as the season goes on.
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Post#7 » by chakdaddy » Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:02 pm

"salary slots" don't exist anymore. When Ray expires, Pierce and KG and the rest will still have us over the cap.
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Post#8 » by celticfan42487 » Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:21 pm

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Ray doesn't have to be traded FOR Redd. Redd will be a free agent and we could just sign him.


You mean in a sign and trade.. in wich MIL will be looking for compensation above an expiring
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Post#9 » by bruno sundov » Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:57 pm

It actually hurts my eyes to watch Michael Redd play Basketball.
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Post#10 » by hiphop1 » Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:00 pm

bruno sundov wrote:It actually hurts my eyes to watch Michael Redd play Basketball.


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Post#11 » by bruno sundov » Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:07 pm

I can't help it. Nothing is natural about his game. His shot is no better than Eddie House's either. He is very good but not great !!! Hows that, no bad jokes for ya!!!!
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Post#12 » by hiphop1 » Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:09 pm

When is LBJ's contract up?
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Post#13 » by reggielewis » Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:11 pm

hiphop1 wrote:When is LBJ's contract up?

lebron and wade all singed shorter deals remember? they were smart so i think that there respective deals may be up in 2 yrs. they didnt sign a 5 or 6 yr contract and i think this is the first yr of their extensions
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Post#14 » by hiphop1 » Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:14 pm

Interesting
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Post#15 » by kmgarnett21 » Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:56 pm

if we could get redd in the next few years & still have KG & PP, then that would = CHAMPIONSHIP!
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Post#16 » by UGA Hayes » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:44 pm

Redd sucks, I personally think he is the most overrated player in the NBA.
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Post#17 » by TheOGJabroni » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:52 pm

UGA Hayes wrote:Redd sucks, I personally think he is the most overrated player in the NBA.

I think in years past you could make this statement, but I don't know. This year to me it really seems he has improved his overall game.
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Post#18 » by tombattor » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:42 pm

bosFcelts wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I think in years past you could make this statement, but I don't know. This year to me it really seems he has improved his overall game.

But the Bucks are winning with Redd not playing... I think the Bucks have in a way, reshaped into include Andrew Bogut as their main man. He's starting to look very very good. We all know he can rebound, score some and can pass, but it's his D, something he's been getting flack for, that's really starting to come together.

I think by next year, Bogut will be their best player. This is by no mean to disrespect Redd, but more of a compliment to Bogut of how much he's improved.
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Post#19 » by hiphop1 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:51 pm

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But the Bucks are winning with Redd not playing... I think the Bucks have in a way, reshaped into include Andrew Bogut as their main man. He's starting to look very very good. We all know he can rebound, score some and can pass, but it's his D, something he's been getting flack for, that's really starting to come together.

I think by next year, Bogut will be their best player. This is by no mean to disrespect Redd, but more of a compliment to Bogut of how much he's improved.


I totally agree.
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Post#20 » by Man_Up » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:59 pm

UGA Hayes wrote:Redd sucks, I personally think he is the most overrated player in the NBA.


and so far for the majority of games this season Ray sucks.

especially if you exclude the first lights out month.
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