Kidd Buyout a Possibility?

Rocky5000 · Post #1 » by **Rocky5000** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:42 am

What would you say the chances are of NJ buying Kidd out are? I realize it's a pretty big stretch but he's only got one more year left on his contract after this one at $21M. Players with contracts as large as Kidd have been bought out before, like CWebb, but usually the player has to actively push for a buyout. The Nets even bought out Mutombo for $30M. The rationality of a buyout would be if NJ thinks they serve a better chance in the offseason of acquiring a free-agent (Calderon perhaps) with a large contract and would not get much back in return. If they are looking for contracts expiring this year, there aren't that many on contending teams around the league.(Finley's in the only big one that I see.) NJ might be better served by buying out Kidd and reloading for next year in the summer free agent market. I believe Kidd has more motivation to win a title than he does to get another big contract. It won't be guaranteed that he'd resign with whoever he is traded to for the 09-10 season(especially if things don't go well) so it's a big gamble for other teams to trade away a budding young player for a year and a half ride with Kidd. Or maybe the deal goes the way of the Mourning-Carter fiasco with Kidd getting a buyout from his new team to play for a contender.

It's probably wishful thinking, but if we could get Kidd without giving up Ray, we'd be absolutely unstoppable.

Joebiscuit · Post #2 » by **Joebiscuit** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:46 am

How about there is a ZERO chance that Kidd gets bought out.
Give me ONE thing the nets would gain by buying him out. You know if a player is bought out his money still goes against the salary cap right? The guys is having his best year and is almost averaging a triple double.
He may not get traded this year but next year his expiring deal will look good to someone. Nets will not let him walk away for nothing. This topic is completely far fetched and beyond ridiculous.

Post #3 » by **Bleeding Green** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:52 am

Let me ask you a completely unrelated question. What are the odds that the Celtics buyout Kevin Garnett?

Joebiscuit · Post #4 » by **Joebiscuit** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:53 am

Bleeding Green wrote:Let me ask you a completely unrelated question. What are the odds that the Celtics buyout Kevin Garnett?

About the same odds as Kidd getting bought out by the Nets or having a T-wolves/Knicks Finals

Post #5 » by **Bleeding Green** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:59 am

Rocky5000 is more likely to be bought out by the Nets than Jason Kidd is.

theGreatRC · Post #6 » by **theGreatRC** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:14 am

Not on your life sport.

Rocky5000 · Post #7 » by **Rocky5000** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:17 am

Bleeding Green wrote:Rocky5000 is more likely to be bought out by the Nets than Jason Kidd is.

Cool, I'm going to go play for the Cs!
Move over Eddie i've got the backup point guard spot now.

An edit to my original post, I didn't realize Finley had been bought out. Would a team be over the salary cap only for this year, or do they continue to be over the cap for the length of Kidd's contract? What is the difference between taking back a **** player with an expiring contract versus a buyout if Kidd only has 1 more year left himself? I haven't seen a proposal where NJ gets back anything that would improve their team.

theTHIEF · Post #8 » by **theTHIEF** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:13 am

no way...and, please dont sign Kidd...please...

Jimmy103 · Post #9 » by **Jimmy103** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:38 am

I will say this...if Jason Kidd were to be bought out, that's something I might be interested in.

Joebiscuit · Post #10 » by **Joebiscuit** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:24 pm

Rocky5000 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Cool, I'm going to go play for the Cs!
Move over Eddie i've got the backup point guard spot now.

An edit to my original post, I didn't realize Finley had been bought out. Would a team be over the salary cap only for this year, or do they continue to be over the cap for the length of Kidd's contract?

If they bought Kidd out his contract would go against the salary cap for however long it lasts. That is what happned to the Knicks when they bought Houston out.

"I haven't seen a proposal where NJ gets back anything that would improve their team."

That is something you have to live with when you trade a star player. I stick by the fact that you do not get equal value when you trade a star player, at least not right away. Look at the the t-wolves are going though. Look at what the sixers ar going though. When you trade a star player it usually mean your team is going to rebuild.

"What is the difference between taking back a **** player with an expiring contract versus a buyout if Kidd only has 1 more year left himself?"

Not sure I understand the question but the goal is for the nets to get something in return. I don't see the nets trading Kidd for a lesser player just because that player expires a year earlier. (if that is what you mean)

Collinto · Post #11 » by **Collinto** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:04 pm

Rocky5000 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

What is the difference between taking back a **** player with an expiring contract versus a buyout if Kidd only has 1 more year left himself? I haven't seen a proposal where NJ gets back anything that would improve their team.

In this case, the difference is around $20 million. Expiring contracts end this year, Kidd is on the books next year for $20 mil...although, the Nets will get some kind of value outside the salary dump, but not alot IMHO.

I wonder how much value Kidd really has? He has 1.5 years and is 34 yrs old...So unless your team is competing for a championship in the next couple of seasons he doesn't have alot of value.

I wouldn't be suprised to see Miami's name pop up. They have Ricky Davis and Jason Williams as expirings, and a lottery pick this year. (Kidd, Wade and Shaq) Washington might be an interesting fit as well, for Gilbert Arenas and filler.

Post #12 » by **sully00** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:03 pm

Before everyone jumps ugly on Rocky here it is not implausible at all. Kidd makes so much money it is going to be near impossible for the the Nets to find a good deal. A good deal is simply trading Kidd for expiring contracts and young cheap talent. That was the advantage Boston had over other teams when aquiring Garnett they had Ratliff's contract there are no other expiring deals of that size that don't belong to All Star players.

To use the Miami or Washington examples. The Nets would have to take back Blount or Eton Thomas. While for Arenas it is worth talking about for JWill and Buckets hell no.

I will have to look at what kind of contract Kidd can get next offseason as far as his age and the MLE. But if a deal can't be worked out he may go to the Nets and say let me go and just keep my salary for 08-09. Time isn't exactly on his side. At that point the Nets may not like it but realize that any deal for Kidd is so financially stupid that it makes the talent aquired pointless.

The one exception to this I think is clearly Lamar Odom.

tombattor · Post #13 » by **tombattor** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:53 pm

Screw Kidd. He's a good player, but he's bailing on his team, whom he helped flush down the toilet. We don't need guys like this on this team.

Post #14 » by **Bleeding Green** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:16 pm

Didn't KG want pretty badly out of Minny?

<---may be misremembering things.

Post #15 » by **sully00** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:51 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:Didn't KG want pretty badly out of Minny?

<---may be misremembering things.

Well to be fair no KG didn't want out of MINN he wanted a big fat contract extension, they didn't want to do that, so they he wanted out.

Post #16 » by **Bleeding Green** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:26 pm

OK, cool.

Screw KG. He's a good player, but he bailed on his team. His contract helped flush that team down the drain. Don't need guys like that on this team.