Kwame Brown to be waived/pick him up?

[MoBSTa]

Bum, is not the word for Kwame a least a bum has enough motovation to get out of the rain.

Kwame has the tools to be a top player in the NBA. Unfortunatly Kwame is nothing more than a D-league player and may never be anything more.

He has no values on the court or just doesn't value the ball. Nenad Krystic gets off the floor higher and more often than Kwame. Kwame Brown is lazy, and his laziness can be bad in the locker room.

Hands have nothing to do with how bad someone wants the ball and Kwame has had his time to get motivated bye maybe one of the best in the business in Phil Jackson.

Don't be fooled, if Phil couldn't put gas in Kwame he will never run on diesel and Clifford Ray isn't going to make the differance.

[EdSkae]

Probably just go back to LA.

I don't think he can go back to LA. I think there was a rule prohibiting put in after Gary Payton went back to Boston.

[P2]

Kwame can sign with the Lakers only after March 1, and he wouldn't be eligible for the playoffs in that case. So why would he do that?

[Tenbomber]

Don't be fooled, if Phil couldn't put gas in Kwame he will never run on diesel and Clifford Ray isn't going to make the differance.

I suspect you are right....Clifford Ray had the Kadiman here and Kandi never really improved much...

Ray can do wonders with young players with raw talent who want to learn... but you cant get someone to answer the door if theres simply nobody home....Like Kandi, Brown just dosen't seem to have the basketball IQ and the self-driven motivation to work at improvement.

I'd like to see Clifford take a shot at breaking through to him if we could sign him very cheep...but I'm not at all sure it would work out in the end?

[Egregious Blunder]

MJ, kobe, and phil jackson couldnt keep him in line

[cope1]

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I suspect you are right....Clifford Ray had the Kadiman here and Kandi never really improved much...

Ray can do wonders with young players with raw talent who want to learn... but you cant get someone to answer the door if theres simply nobody home....Like Kandi, Brown just dosen't seem to have the basketball IQ and the self-driven motivation to work at improvement.

I'd like to see Clifford take a shot at breaking through to him if we could sign him very cheep...but I'm not at all sure it would work out in the end?

I think the comparison with Kandy Man and Kwame is a good one but Kandy man was older.

If he is a real lost cause, Ainge and company really have to be careful with Chemistry as they have said, bring in a lost cause and give him the few minutes that are left what is it 12? then it may upset the "Ubunto" (sorry I can't remember the exact phrase) they have going....we have to be careful of that...I see bringing him tho if he is on-line 100%....we do need another big body.

[celticfan42487]

Bottom line it's what's best for the Celtics. Not to see if the kid has a future in teh league. Not to see if he's motivated. It's if he can be our backup Center.

1) Is Brown> Injury Pollard?

We're not going to keep the kid for more then the end of this year because some rebuilding team will offer him more then vet min. But for this year there is a back-up Center role and the only question is: does Kwame bring enough to the backup center position to warrant a vet min contract?

I say he does, especially since we've been playing 30 games without a back-up Center because Pollard is hurt.

[Rocky5000]

If others are considering bringing in Birdman, why not Kwame? Their stats aren't that different.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/chris_andersen/
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kwame_brown/

As much as I love Perk as far as starting C goes, he has to be in the bottom 4 or 5 of the NBA. I think over the offseason he was rated dead last. I think Perk is a better defender than Perkins but not by much. Kwame is much more mobile than Perkins is, and a better offensive player. If Kwame hadn't been picked as highly and hadn't been given such a large contract, he wouldn't be getting the attention he does now. If he's looked at as a role player instead of a franchise savior I think he has a lot more value.

[DelMonte West]

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Jordan tried to get the best out of Kwame and it backfired painfully...

Maybe KG can do a better job. Bring the big boy on board!!!

If Kwame had a hard time with Jordan and the Laker fans, I shudder to think what could happen to what's left of his self-esteem if his play pissed off Garnett.

Everyone wants to see this kid rise from the ashes, but I'm not sure KG's the best guy to be in your corner if you're infamous for your lack of confidence and desire.

[ParticleMan]

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Come on Particle. He is not a good player. This is what I am talking about. You are hoping he "realizes" his talent/height and hoping he'll be motivated. He has done nothing in his career to suggest so. Now, don't get me wrong, if we signed him for the min. I certainly wouldn't care, but he would not contribute at all. He is Kandi part II.

He is not a good player but we're talking about a 3rd string center here. He can play some pretty good D, and he is a legit 7 feet. That's enough for me. I don't expect him to "realize" anything. I just want him to play at the level he played for most of his career. I'm not expecting any miracles, Clifford Ray or no.

I don't know about the whole Kandi comparison. Kwame I don't recall has ever had motivation problems. Kobe went out of his way to say that Kwame was a good guy. He isn't a locker room problem. He doesn't get in trouble with the law. He works hard, he tries. He's just not very good, at least for a #1 pick. But that draft was long ago, forget it. What's important now is whether he can help us.

Imagine it's game 7 of the finals, Perk and KG are out with fouls, Pollard is injured as always, and someone has to come in to guard TD on the final play. Do you want Powe? Or Baby? Or Scal? Or would you rather have a legit center who is a solid defender and shotblocker?

[MVP16]

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Imagine it's game 7 of the finals, Perk and KG are out with fouls, Pollard is injured as always, and someone has to come in to guard TD on the final play. Do you want Powe? Or Baby? Or Scal? Or would you rather have a legit center who is a solid defender and shotblocker?

1. Your assumption is based on the fact that 3 players are out for one reason or another. Pollard would be playing right now if we needed him. But why play him when we can develop Powe/Big Baby and he has a lingering ankle problem. Having KG and Perk foul is also very unlikely. Using this kind of logic, we need another player at each position since there's a minute possibility that multiple players will foul out/be injured.

2. Powe has played very good defense and wouldn't do much worse then Kwame IMO. Powe already knows our defensive schemes and with Kwame's IQ level, I'm not sure he'll be able to master them this year. Either way, whether it's Kwame or Powe on Duncan, neither of them is stopping him one on one. It would be a team defensive effort.

[Tenbomber]

What's important now is whether he can help us.

Imagine it's game 7 of the finals, Perk and KG are out with fouls, Pollard is injured as always, and someone has to come in to guard TD on the final play. Do you want Powe? Or Baby? Or Scal? Or would you rather have a legit center who is a solid defender and shotblocker?

Hmmmm....thats a good question!

Actually, I would rather have Brown in there than Pollard... from what I've been able to see of Pollard's play.

We have a roster spot open, so I'm not opposed to signing Brown up if the price is right and he's willin.....(even if it ends up that he is no more than a situation player like you described).....then again too, there's always that chance that Kwame would miraculously find himself, playing alongside Kevin?....

Worth a shot I guess!....I take my chances with him in situations like these..

Guess theres a part of me that would love to see a guy like Brown do well and be a difference maker here in Boston....if for no other reason than he was booed in LA....

[ShowtimeFan]

Probably just go back to LA.

No, No, No, If you guys really want/need him go right ahead.

The Lakers/Kwame experiment is officially over..

or if you want Mihm back, just give us a call...

[magee]

He's worth it if he comes at the vets minimum. Absolutely worth it. Anyone who says no to him is an idiot. He would immediately give this team more depth because KG wouldn't have to play 40 minutes against teams who have schlubs as bigs like Charlotte (aside from Emeka Okafor).

[sully00]

Obviously if they waive him he is someone you have to take a look at, I just hope they don't you have to give the Kwame/Darko frontcourt a chance to dominate.

[hiphop1]

Obviously if they waive him he is someone you have to take a look at, I just hope they don't you have to give the Kwame/Darko frontcourt a chance to dominate.

The Elbusto Frontcourt!

[P2]

Please close this thread. Kwame will not receive a buyout, here's why:

http://www.nba.com/grizzlies/features/k ... 80204.html