Charlie Villanueva

campybatman · Post #1 » by **campybatman** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 10:50 pm

I don't know how well he can defend but he's a nice young talent that can develop in Boston to replace Garnett or Pierce someday as a regular starter at forward. I'm thinking he's Walter McCarty-like right now off the bench. I would be willing to give up what it could require to acquire him via trade. Perhaps, a future first round pick that Boston does own. Ainge likely can hold onto Rondo with Milwaukee locking up Williams and Bell. My guess is that the Bucks would seek more size if they were to decide to make Villanueva available before the deadline. Too bad Boston doesn't have size to spare. Still, Villanueva is a player entering the draft who some believed that on talent alone he could emerge as a really good player in the league. I wonder why Toronto let him go. There must be a red flag on him for something.

When the Bucks signed Yi. I saw this coming... However, Villanueva admits that his frustration isn't directed toward the rookie.

Villanueva's frustration has grown in recent weeks, and he felt compelled to address trade rumors on the blog he writes for NBA.com, with the league trade deadline approaching Feb. 21. He elaborated a bit on those comments Monday. "Is a trade possible? It's possible, definitely," Villanueva said. "Anything can happen in this business. I feel like I didn't get traded here to be the ninth man. I'm playing 19 minutes a game. It's definitely frustrating, but I've got to stick with it and keep working and see what happens." The Bucks made a strong commitment to Yi when they signed him on Aug. 29, and the 7-foot rookie earned the starting job in training camp. But Villanueva said Yi's starting role is not the issue. "I don't really care, coming off the bench," Villanueva said. "I've done it before. My thing is, use me, you know." Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel / February 4

Last summer the Bucks picked up the 2008-'09 option year for $3.45 million. Villanueva is earning $2.7 million this season. "It doesn't feel comfortable," he said when asked about his future with the Bucks. "Do I see myself here? It's hard to know. My contract is coming up, and that's definitely in the back of my mind." Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel / February 4

JahReid · Post #2 » by **JahReid** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 10:57 pm

He dropped like 48 points in a game his rookie season. He's got a lot of skill for a big, I think the issue may be more mental with him for whatever reason. He probabley doesn't work hard. He would look nice on our bench but realistically no trade would work for both teams. They aren't just going to toss him aside for nothing. I could picture him doing well in the right situation. Like on Houston.

greenbeans · Post #3 » by **greenbeans** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 11:20 pm

id love to see him come here. unfortunately we dont have the pieces to make a move for him.

bruno sundov · Post #4 » by **bruno sundov** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 1:29 pm

they can have vealchop for him.

GuyClinch · Post #5 » by **GuyClinch** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 1:39 pm

Charlie V. isn't bad. But honestly..

People there is NO FRIGGIN WAY we are going to transistion seamessly from KG RA and PP to some other younger guys on our roster. Just give up this dream. When those guys go their will be a drop off - just like there was when Bird, Mchale and Parish left.

The best we can hope for is that the team will be in decent finanical shape so we can rebuild gracefully and it won't take 20 years - maybe just 5..

Pete

BillessuR6 · Post #6 » by **BillessuR6** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:29 pm

I don`t care what happens in 5 years! Whether we have great young prospects on our team or not!

Just win a title with this team, that is all that matters! The future is now!

kakopedi1 · Post #7 » by **kakopedi1** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 7:36 pm

TAllen & Big Baby for Charlie V. works. I'd do that trade throw in a couple of 2nds'.

With LA & PHX adding bigs(Gasol, Shaq) we nedd another big ourselves.

Egregious Blunder · Post #8 » by **Egregious Blunder** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 8:02 pm

kakopedi1 wrote:TAllen & Big Baby for Charlie V. works. I'd do that trade throw in a couple of 2nds'.

With LA & PHX adding bigs(Gasol, Shaq) we nedd another big ourselves.

i dont think id do that.
i like charlie v, but that seems expensive.

DorfonCeltics · Post #9 » by **DorfonCeltics** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 8:49 pm

kakopedi1 wrote:TAllen & Big Baby for Charlie V. works. I'd do that trade throw in a couple of 2nds'.

With LA & PHX adding bigs(Gasol, Shaq) we nedd another big ourselves.

No friggen way am I trading TA and Baby for Charlie V. if I'm Danny Ainge. TA is a strating caliber SG with shut down defensive capabilities. Baby has shown to be a great hustler, rebounder and finisher inside despite his height disadvantage.

I like Charlie V and all but I'd rather just wait until his contract expires after next year and go after him in free agency. Yi might be a bonafide stud at that point and the Bucks might not look to match.

GreenMachine · Post #10 » by **GreenMachine** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 9:10 pm

GuyClinch wrote:Charlie V. isn't bad. But honestly..

People there is NO FRIGGIN WAY we are going to transistion seamessly from KG RA and PP to some other younger guys on our roster. Just give up this dream. When those guys go their will be a drop off - just like there was when Bird, Mchale and Parish left.

The best we can hope for is that the team will be in decent finanical shape so we can rebuild gracefully and it won't take 20 years - maybe just 5..

Pete

Well if people didn't keep dieing... there might not have been such a drop off...

toecutter · Post #11 » by **toecutter** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 10:15 pm

GuyClinch wrote:Charlie V. isn't bad. But honestly..

People there is NO FRIGGIN WAY we are going to transistion seamessly from KG RA and PP to some other younger guys on our roster. Just give up this dream. When those guys go their will be a drop off - just like there was when Bird, Mchale and Parish left.
Pete

lol ever hear of Reggie Lewis? Len Bias? Pervis Ellison? Those were very very good players who died (or were as good as dead) before their time. How do you rebuild with luck like that? Doesn't help that ownership placed team management in the hands of a megalomaniac when things seemed like they couldn't possibly get worse. Glad to see you were paying attention Pete.

campybatman · Post #12 » by **campybatman** » Thu Feb 7, 2008 1:04 am

kakopedi1 wrote:TAllen & Big Baby for Charlie V. works.

House, Davis and Powe in exchange for Villanueva works as well.

Hypothetically, this trade makes sense if Boston were to somehow get Cassell. Because this gives the Celtics Rondo and Caseell at the point guard position with Pruitt for insurance. Also, with House gone, both Ray and Tony Allen can be your primary one-two at shooting guard. Ideally, Villanueva creates that depth at forward along Garnett, Pierce and Scalabrine you lost with Davis and Powe. Not to mention, Villanueva's height can create mismatches in Boston's lineup when Rivers goes small with either him or Garnett playing at times at center. Obviously, the negative on this proposal is the hit you'll take at center for Boston. You've Perkins, Pollard and for a change of pace Garnett and possibly Villanueva. A lot of the toughness and strength in your front court also goes with Davis and Powe.

Apparently, lack of intensity, questionable work ethic and desire are his glaring weaknesses. Can those be fixed? You read a lot of things about a player but if these are all true about Villanueva. Perhaps, he'll never take his game to the next level.