Rondo's Ceiling

Datruth345 · Post #21 » by **Datruth345** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:21 pm

Rondos Ceiling

1-2 time all-star if that

but will play at "all-star level" for a long time

Cyclical · Post #22 » by **Cyclical** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:31 pm

Tony Parker with defense and rebounding.

This kid will score many 20+ point games throughout his career; will get some triple doubles and will save our asses when the wings can't get it going. 2-3 all-star games sounds about right to me.

wigglestrue · Post #23 » by **wigglestrue** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:34 pm

"Tony Parker with defense and rebounding" would lead to more than just 2 or 3 All Star appearances. If the kid winds up as "Tony Parker with rebounding and defense" then you're talking about a Hall of Fame player.

Cyclical · Post #24 » by **Cyclical** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:53 pm

^
LOL. I'll take that.

bruno sundov · Post #25 » by **bruno sundov** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:18 pm

CelticsWhat! wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Check out NBA.com's daily top 10. I think it's #7.

thank you.

Scalamental · Post #26 » by **Scalamental** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:27 pm

wigglestrue wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Did I not specify midrange? Pretty sure I did. And if "jumper from a few feet in" means the outer limits of midrange, then dude you're wrong. He's improved his midrange shot at least to the point where one can say he has a midrange shot, one that extends to a few feet inside the arc.

I'm going to define solid as a shot that you'd make 6/10 times. Rondo's floaters, lay ups, and everything else close to the rim has been pretty solid. Rondo's Jumpers from 3, and a few feet in from three, have not been solid. His shot IS getting better, but it's not as good as your making it sound. Would you consider Eric Snow to have a solid jump shot? Because that's where Rondo's jumper is right now.

BadWolf · Post #27 » by **BadWolf** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:35 pm

3 plays on NBA Top 10 of the day,,, whole game with 6...

Post #28 » by **UGA Hayes** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:50 pm

Don't look at this link if you want to know what the rest of realgm thinks about rondo.

http://realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=758561

wigglestrue · Post #29 » by **wigglestrue** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:52 pm

Scalamental wrote:I'm going to define solid as a shot that you'd make 6/10 times. Rondo's floaters, lay ups, and everything else close to the rim has been pretty solid. Rondo's Jumpers from 3, and a few feet in from three, have not been solid. His shot IS getting better, but it's not as good as your making it sound. Would you consider Eric Snow to have a solid jump shot? Because that's where Rondo's jumper is right now.

Once again: I'm not talking about threes, I already wrote about how I think he'll extend his range out there next season. What's solid from a few feet in? 6/10? I don't know what the golden number would be. But I know that last year he would have gone about 0/6 or 1/6. This year he's probably going 5/10 or so, and when he misses he's at least missing by only a little, not clanking it off the backboard or airmailing it. You want him to have a good midrange shot? Well, stick around, he might develop a good one next year. But I never said he had a good midrange shot now, I said he has a solid midrange shot. Send me a link to whatever sports dictionary you're using that equates the two words. Solid, to me, means: a tiny bit better than adequate, competent. I have been impressed by how his midrange shot has gone from being dreadful to solid/competent in one season. If it had gone from dreadful to good in one season, then I'd consider Rondo some kind of basketball deity. As it is, his shot is already clearly better than Eric Snow's, whose inconsistent mediocre form hasn't changed once in his long-ass career and who still can't be trusted to make an open 18 footer, whereas Rondo can be trusted to make an open 18 footer, more often than not anyway.

Al n' Perk No Layups! · Post #30 » by **Al n' Perk No Layups!** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:42 pm

UGA Hayes wrote:Don't look at this link if you want to know what the rest of realgm thinks about rondo.

http://realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=758561

I'm sorry, but these are the same people saying last year that Anderson Varejao was better than Al Jefferson. The player comparison board is not a bastion of basketball knowledge by any stretch of the imagination.

GuyClinch · Post #31 » by **GuyClinch** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:50 pm

Well if you go over to C's blog you can read a poster who is convinced that Rondo is the best in the game and dedicates his life to proving it. <g>

That being said Rondo's post KG injury play has been top ten stuff I think..

Pete

Post #32 » by **UGA Hayes** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:57 pm

Al n' Perk No Layups! wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I'm sorry, but these are the same people saying last year that Anderson Varejao was better than Al Jefferson. The player comparison board is not a bastion of basketball knowledge by any stretch of the imagination.

Lol I agree. I posted in a thread on that board where I projected rondo to become the second best PG of the under 25 guys behind Chris Paul and I got criticized pretty harshly. At the end of the day I just don't think most people can look past a player's draft position unless they play for the home team.

(For what its worth, though not better than Jefferson, I like AV a lot - In fact, despite different frames, I think Glen Davis is pretty similar to Vareajao)

nasbahceltic · Post #33 » by **nasbahceltic** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:48 pm

billfromBoston wrote:...Rondo will take longer to get national recognition for his talent I believe because he will be playing with GPA for at least 2-3 more years...

Bill totally agree with you on Rondo, but i found it interesting you said 2-3 years. I know its pure speculation at this point, but do you think Danny and Co. have the intention to trade-off Ray's expiring deal 2 years down the road to acquire a younger superstar to pair with Pierce Rondo and Garnett? I know this is taking the topic off on a tangent, but the dates you listed just got me thinking

billfromBoston · Post #34 » by **billfromBoston** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:36 am

nasbahceltic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Bill totally agree with you on Rondo, but i found it interesting you said 2-3 years. I know its pure speculation at this point, but do you think Danny and Co. have the intention to trade-off Ray's expiring deal 2 years down the road to acquire a younger superstar to pair with Pierce Rondo and Garnett? I know this is taking the topic off on a tangent, but the dates you listed just got me thinking

....i'd say that its certainly an option, but it depends a lot on how Ray is performing in addition to the growth of the other, younger players on the team...if Ray, for instance, is playing at a pretty high level 2 season from now, but Rondo has risen to All Star status, then the team may very well re-sign Ray to a substantially lesser deal and keep the team intact...

...with Pierce expiring the following year, the team could easily sign both Pierce and Allen to 7mill-per deals and they'd still have shaved 10-15 million off the cap depending on the cost of the other roster players...

...i think its all wait-and-see when you talk about 3 years down the road...

rambo_ortega · Post #35 » by **rambo_ortega** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:32 am

i think he would be somewhat similar to tony parker

wardevil · Post #36 » by **wardevil** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:07 pm

Who knows what the future holds for Rondo? Right now its hard to tell what his potential as a scorer will be in the future. At this point in his career he should not be used in the same sentence with CP3, or Deron Williams, as some have compared him to. At this time I don't think he can be a starting point guard on a championship team,without a quality back up. In fact, I don't think the Celts will make it out of the East with a non-shooting, brick free throw shooting PG handling the ball down the stretch in crucial games. If they don't get a quality back up PG to replace Rondo during the times he is not on his game, the Celts with not make it out of the East this year.

Post #37 » by **sully00** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:41 pm

I have to agree that Rondo is a step below franchise type points like Paul and Williams, as well as Baron Davis, Steve Nash, and I think you have to include Billups in this group of 5.

But the next teir of guys starting with Parker and Kidd is more in line with Rondo's ability. If you look at Devon Harris I think you see a really simliar talent but Rondo clearly is a better creator with the pass and has better overall feel for the game.

I still think the thing that will hold him back more than his shooting from the field or any other aspect of his game is his FT shooting. It reared its head last night again. You can't be a great perimeter player in this league if you are going to shoot 60% from the line.

Post #38 » by **Spin Move** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:56 pm

Look at rondo's shooting chart

http://www.nba.com/hotspots/ you have to put in the info

but he is shooting 44% on long 2's very respectable and 47% from mid range, very solid for a point gaurd, the interesting thing the chart shows is that he is a much better shooter from the right side then the left side, shooting below 35% on longer jumpers from the left side but over 45% on long jumpers from the right