Cmon guys, Everyone knows that Scal doesn't belong in the NBA. He probably would have a hard time staying on the court on a D-league roster, that's how bad he is.
He's smart, but he still makes very stupid mistakes, like how he steps out of bounds a couple of times a game, or throws passes to no-one. Everyone hates Tony for doing these things, but Scal is probably 2-3x worse. And Scal doesn't have the talent that Tony does to make up for it.
The reason Scal gets cheered(this year) is because he's the last guy off the bench, and only appears in blowouts. Having Scalabrine hit a shot on your team is the ultimate insult.
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eitanr wrote:The C's have look at least several years down the line and develop some type of future.
Right now they are set with Rondo as their PG for the next 13+ seasons, but there still lies uncertainty regarding the future of their big and wing slots.
Enter JJ Reddick. Reddick was perhaps the best scorer in NCAA history playing for the Duke Blue Devils. One could make the argument that he had one of the top 10 greatest college careers of all time. Now obviously that does not always translate into a great NBA player, but at least there is a logical basis as to his potential in this league.
He is not just a good shooter...he is a great one. I don't want to sound like I am gushing on JJ, but these are just the facts. He did not recieve consistent minutes as a Magic and now his market value seems to be lower than his book value.
I don't think it would nessecarily even take a future pick (or the current one at 30) to snag a guy like JJ, but the idea carries a lot of merit. I think right now you can make a debate between House and Redick. I think; however, if you place in the fact of potential, than Redick is head above a better asset for an organization. This idea of comparing players (vets vs. youth) right now can be used by comparing Grant Hill to Al Thornton. Right now, both have had similar seasons statistically and Hill's team is headed for the playoffs, but Thornton has emmensley more potential and a higher cieling.
There is a log jam right now at the 2 that may not be there next season. The C's don't yet know what they'll do with House and T. Allen. Redick could be a much cheaper replacement than both of these guys.
I also do think the C's should go after Hibbert somehow if he slips into the mid 20s in the draft. Powe or BBD need to thrown in a deal along with the pick to acquire him.
Then the C's will be on their way.......
to future bliss.
Still smoking the crack rock huh? What's with this then the C's will be on the way crap? Did you notice that we have the best record in the league?
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another great post pete. you and RD have been spot on.
i still can't believe how many threads we had in support of those useless pgs (Sergio the Savior and Saras the Usesless). Each of those players completely flopped- and some one or other over Rondo. its a joke.
now this JJ Redick topic- you have to be kidding me. the only thing he has accomplished is get his ass firmly planted on the bench of orlando. thats it. you're telling me on a team with D Howard drawing a double team on every play, that the Magic wouldn't have found a way for Redick to play even though he was usefull? they don't play him b/c he sucks. period.
where are those adam morrison will be the Saviour people. yeah that was a brilliant idea to trade Pierce for him.
Pogue- you are right, its 2008 and Race shouldn't be an issue, but when players continue to get greatly over-rated, seemingly b/c of the color of their skin- it can become pretty damn old. and quick.
i still can't believe how many threads we had in support of those useless pgs (Sergio the Savior and Saras the Usesless). Each of those players completely flopped- and some one or other over Rondo. its a joke.
now this JJ Redick topic- you have to be kidding me. the only thing he has accomplished is get his ass firmly planted on the bench of orlando. thats it. you're telling me on a team with D Howard drawing a double team on every play, that the Magic wouldn't have found a way for Redick to play even though he was usefull? they don't play him b/c he sucks. period.
where are those adam morrison will be the Saviour people. yeah that was a brilliant idea to trade Pierce for him.
Pogue- you are right, its 2008 and Race shouldn't be an issue, but when players continue to get greatly over-rated, seemingly b/c of the color of their skin- it can become pretty damn old. and quick.
GuyClinch wrote:As an aside, can we knock the race **** off already? It's 2008. Jeese Louise. I find such talk offensive personally. The color of a man's skin is no more significant than the color of his eyes.
We can start knocking off "race" arguments when we stop launching threads about every formely "good" white prospect for no real reason. How come I don't see threads about us 'stealing" Corey Brewer or Yakim Noah. Remember the great push for that foreign PG fraud that went to Indiana?
Now for as race not mattering... Yes the color of a man's skin isn't relevant. But his genetics are and let's face facts the NBA does favour a certain body type and genetic backaround. This body type - long arms, fast twitch muscle fibers and such is highly prevalent in West Africa and in African Americans as that's where the slaves were shipped from.
People make ill-informed jump from those genetics to "color of skin" as it's only coincidental that those guys have dark skin.
But really it's not any different then talking about how Michael Phelps genetics is so ideal in the sport of swimming. One thing you learn from talking with almost any of the professional athletes is that they tend to have cousins, brothers, sisters etc - who had big time performance in various other sports. They have a ton more then your average white friends in the "big three" sports of basketball, football and baseball.. Jason Sehorn was known as "freak" for that reason. How many white cornerbacks do you see?
That's of course typical when you understand the genetics that leads to sport domination. Until that changes your always going to see plenty of talk about race in sports. Your talking about 10% of the US population just DOMINATING the NBA. That's just genetics in action.
Yes the genetics of many Kenyans are just awful for NBA basketball so technically your correct. It's not skin color at all because Africa has the most diverse genetic population. They have super short pygmies and super tall bush men. They have high fast twitch populations in West africa and populations that are not very muscular with incredible lungs and hearts in East Africa..
I think people hate this topic because it demystifies athletes. Those so called "athletic" guy often just has the right body type for a sport. Despite what commentators and the like would have you believe it's not all "hard work" and 'effort' and "smarts' that go into a making a player.
Even a guy like Scalabrine let's face it has a pretty good body type. He is 6'9". A guy like that wouldn't sniff the NBA if he was 6'1"
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1 question: Do you believe this crap, or do you just post it to piss people off?
2. Eddie House may have the quickest release in the NBA (and if not the quickest, one of the quickest). He can get his shot off at will, against any level defender, any athlete in the league. Tell me, when the hell have you seen that little bitch Reddick able to get his shot off against the top athletes without several screens. Hell for that matter, even with the screens? Did you watch the NCAA tournaments. Why don't you take a look at Reddick's NCAA tournament losses?
3. This team went 66-16 on the foundation of havng the best defensive squad in the NBA. How do you think replacing Tony Allen and Eddie House with a guy, who is quite possibly one of the worst defenders in the league (look, he isn't steve nash/damon jones level bad- but he is pretty bad)?
2. Eddie House may have the quickest release in the NBA (and if not the quickest, one of the quickest). He can get his shot off at will, against any level defender, any athlete in the league. Tell me, when the hell have you seen that little bitch Reddick able to get his shot off against the top athletes without several screens. Hell for that matter, even with the screens? Did you watch the NCAA tournaments. Why don't you take a look at Reddick's NCAA tournament losses?
3. This team went 66-16 on the foundation of havng the best defensive squad in the NBA. How do you think replacing Tony Allen and Eddie House with a guy, who is quite possibly one of the worst defenders in the league (look, he isn't steve nash/damon jones level bad- but he is pretty bad)?
He is not just a good shooter...he is a great one. I don't want to sound like I am gushing on JJ, but these are just the facts. He did not recieve consistent minutes as a Magic and now his market value seems to be lower than his book value.
I don't think it would nessecarily even take a future pick (or the current one at 30) to snag a guy like JJ, but the idea carries a lot of merit. I think right now you can make a debate between House and Redick. I think; however, if you place in the fact of potential, than Redick is head above a better asset for an organization. This idea of comparing players (vets vs. youth) right now can be used by comparing Grant Hill to Al Thornton. Right now, both have had similar seasons statistically and Hill's team is headed for the playoffs, but Thornton has emmensley more potential and a higher cieling.
There is a log jam right now at the 2 that may not be there next season. The C's don't yet know what they'll do with House and T. Allen. Redick could be a much cheaper replacement than both of these guys.
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Guys, enough with the race talk. Let's face it, nobody on this board judges a player based on their race, and nobody gets overrated because of the color of their skin. Jeez, its 2008. On to more important things....
WE NEED TO DRAFT TYLER HANSBOROUGH!!!!! Trade Powe and BBD to move up!!!! Then the C's will be on their way!!!
WE NEED TO DRAFT TYLER HANSBOROUGH!!!!! Trade Powe and BBD to move up!!!! Then the C's will be on their way!!!
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redick??
If we decided to pick this guy up then I don't give up anything more than a second rounder. Reddick right now is not better than eddie house. If you want a reddick type wait till the second round and drfat jaycee carroll same typeof player just smaller. Also you don't trade powe and big baby to draft hansbrough. Use our 30th pick on pat calathes or josh duncan ollege seniors who will bring something to the team right away and no to reddick.
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RickyDizzle wrote:This overfavoring of white players annoys me so much that I think I am sort of reverse racist against white players (and I am white)!
"Reverse racism" is generally considered an extremely racist term. It's like saying that racism towards a white person is such an outlandish idea that it deserves it's own term. I know it wasnt intended and I'm not trying to start a PC argument.. just thought it was kinda funny in an argument about race
Who the hell made this a racial conversation anyway? Boo the **** out of them for flashing the race card like that. There's a thread about literally EVERY potentially available player that gets himself a headline in the wiretap.. This guy just happens to be white. Big deal.

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