If D'Antoni / Avery Johnson gets fired.....

DynastyInTheMaking · Post #21 » by **DynastyInTheMaking** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:15 pm

If we get knocked out by the Hawks then I want Avery.

EvadedHavoc · Post #22 » by **EvadedHavoc** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:18 pm

Not saying i would want him but Avery was just fired.

MyInsatiableOne · Post #23 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:50 pm

EvadedHavoc wrote:Not saying i would want him but Avery was just fired.

**** you beat me to it!

BTW doesn't Avery have the funniest/most annoying voice?

scootfu602 · Post #24 » by **scootfu602** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:53 pm

threrf23 wrote:D'Antoni = Mike Martz of the NBA. Not interested.

And I don't see Avery Johnson getting fired, or resigning

Lets give Doc a chance here first. Danny trusts him, and Danny knows what he's doing. Besides Doc does have his strengths just as he certainly has his weaknesses.

Already happened today. Cuban ousted him, and word here in Phoenix is that D'Antoni will be back for another run at it.

Avery link http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8091036?MSNHPHMA

D'Antoni http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8090868

If any of that helps. And.......Go Celtics please shut thos ATL punks up. My suns got bounced so I gotta pull for KG and the crew to get a ring.

Post #25 » by **Celtics_Champs** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:02 pm

4 seasons, really? Why did I think his tenure was much shorter.

threrf23 · Post #26 » by **threrf23** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:59 pm

Doc aside, I will defend Avery Johnson. Last season I thought he did an ezcellent job of providing leadership and awarding minutes according to who deserved them the most. In the regular season at least. First round oust, but it was against the team's ex-coach and Avery's mentor. The same problems existed against the Warriors at the beginning of the season as well.

This season, the Mavs' were marred by injuries early, and Avery was out testing vartious lineups to judge potential contributors to come up with the best game plan end of season and playoffs. Eventually, everyone got healthy, Mavs regained their chemistry and were playing really well, and then the Jason Kidd trade was pulled off...plus throughout the season he was given guys like Hassell Juwan How and Tyronn Lue that sucked but were presumably supposed to get PT

Sounds like Avery had been fighting with Mark Cuban post Kidd trade per the Wiretap. some Mavs fans have criticized him saying the team didn't trust him. I think it was more he was unhappy with the organization and the players, also maybe unhappy, sensed that. Avery takes some deserved fault there IMO - yet when emotions are involved motivation is affected and certain things are more easily said than done.

He might be a control freak, but he knows what he's doing. He is no nonsense and players know that he makes decisions based on what he feels will do the most to help his team win. His personality is more intense than Doc and portrays more self confidence than Doc not in bball IQ persay but in making in game adjustments and such. He gets his team's respect, and I haven't seen anything indicating he has an inflated ego.

I didn't see him getting fired even if I could've saw him resigning. I think that was another poor move on Mark Cuban's end.

I think our players like Doc, I think Danny does as well, and I don't think we lose to ATL and I think desperation will force the right decisions against other opponents....though our entire team including Doc needs to step their game up if we have a chance at winning the title.

Now if we lose to ATL, or CLE, or Avery Johnson wants to take a year off from the stresses of being a head coach and is willing to accept an assistant role....well then things happen.

s1ickd · Post #27 » by **s1ickd** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:32 pm

i dont like either d'antoni or johnson as coaches personally. they arent upgrades over doc.

the 2 guys i wouldn't mind seeing are rick carlile and jeff van gundy. both would do wonders with the defensive capability of this team.

threrf23 · Post #28 » by **threrf23** » Thu May 1, 2008 2:25 am

No JVG. Have you listened to the guy commentate? Tom Thibodeau was probably responsible for much of the Rockets success last year anyway. And JVG played Juwan Howard 30 minutes per game

GuyClinch · Post #29 » by **GuyClinch** » Thu May 1, 2008 4:49 pm

I'd keep Doc over those two guys..

My pet peeve with Doc is his love of "second units." I cringe when I see the all - scrub lineups he uses in the playoffs.. I much prefer piecemeal subsititutions. But beyond that he has been fine.

Pete

Celts17Pride · Post #30 » by **Celts17Pride** » Thu May 1, 2008 5:30 pm

Doc's getting a contract extension after the playoffs. Come up with something else. Bottom line, KG, Pierce & Ray Allen want Doc as their coach. Doc will stay the coach.

MyInsatiableOne · Post #31 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Thu May 1, 2008 6:40 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Doc's getting a contract extension after the playoffs. Come up with something else. Bottom line, KG, Pierce & Ray Allen want Doc as their coach. Doc will stay the coach.

to you and Pete above. Keep Doc. Ever heard of continuity? Something this team hasn't had in the coaching ranks in a long time, and now we do and are successful and everyone is still a hater?

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