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Post#21 » by I love heinsohn » Mon May 26, 2008 2:26 am

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Or even if he does.

If Posey opts out, he has two possibilities:

    A long-term MLE deal.
    A one-year deal, at a raise over what he would have gotten under his option, with another one-year player option (insurance policy).

I imagine he'd prefer the first, but if the team was using the MLE well he might settle for the second, also attractive possibility.
The problem is with the CBA Posey can only get about a 20% raise w/o using the MLE. If Danny has another target for the MLE, my guess is that Posey opts out (although I hope not!). If Danny only targets vet. minimum guys, then I wouldn't be surprised to see Posey get about 3 years and $10-11 million.
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Post#22 » by Prophet_C » Mon May 26, 2008 4:07 am

Celtics_Champs wrote:I have seen this done before. A lot of networks do it all the time. NESN used to have TE Christian Fauria talk about the Patriots playoffs when he was still playing for the redskins. It's different though because, in this case, gomes is young, and your right, ainge might want to have him back.

I would love to see Ryan back, hometown, all that, he is a good player and a good guy. I was ecstatic when he dropped to 50 to us.


I'm pretty sure Fauria did this after he was with the Pats.
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Post#23 » by bigcelticsfan » Mon May 26, 2008 5:41 am

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Ok, oh wise one, tell me what we could get for Leon Powe. This should be good. And if you say Leon Powe +30th pick for the 8th pick in the draft... :roll:

Now, if you were agreeing with me then nevermind the above comment :lol:


I was agreeing with you. Leon Powe + #30 gets you a giant pile of crap.
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Post#24 » by 15th overall » Mon May 26, 2008 7:33 am

Seattle traded us their best player for the #5 pick last year.

And now Powe, a crappy pick and an overpayed Tony Allen (he'd have to be overpayed to qualify for a S&T) gets us the #8 pick? What the hell?
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Post#25 » by BillessuR6 » Mon May 26, 2008 8:35 am

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Have you actually seen Jordan play? Do you actually like him. I've seen him only once, and he didn't look good. He even lost his starting job in the Tourny.

If you've seen Jordan play, can you tell me what you liked about his game? I really don't like to judge someone by watching him only once or twice. I don't know too much about his game. But how good can he be if he lost his starting job in college and is expected to go top 10?


I have only seen him once and he looked terrible. I said top 10 because I read a Chad Ford article where he said there were numerous scouts and GM`s who said Jordan will go top 10 just because of his hight and potential.

Marvin Williams also wasn`t a starter for North Carolina and he was drafted 2nd before guys like Deron Williams and Chris Paul...

When you have an athletic 7 footer with potential he will go in top 10 just based on that alone...
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Post#26 » by Turgon » Mon May 26, 2008 10:04 am

Powe is too important to us to be gone like that. My bet is we keep him for another year, then sign a new contract. I'm sure he'll stay, given the choice.

I am not expecting a trade to happen. It doesn't make much sense for a team built to win now to ship experienced units just to get a higher pick. Don't forget that PJ, Cassel and House end their contracts (and I'm not sure they will stay another year), Pollard is as good as gone, Allen and Posey need to be re-signed. And then there's Wallace, which I think will be gone too. That's 7 players we are not sure about.

My guess is we'll try to re-sign PJ and one of Cassell or House, keep Allen and Posey and grab one more veteran with the MLE. At the most, maybe we'll do a move like #30+cash for the Suns pick - they're always looking for cash...
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Post#27 » by P2 » Mon May 26, 2008 12:02 pm

Turgon wrote:Powe is too important to us to be gone like that. My bet is we keep him for another year, then sign a new contract. I'm sure he'll stay, given the choice.

I am not expecting a trade to happen. It doesn't make much sense for a team built to win now to ship experienced units just to get a higher pick. Don't forget that PJ, Cassel and House end their contracts (and I'm not sure they will stay another year), Pollard is as good as gone, Allen and Posey need to be re-signed. And then there's Wallace, which I think will be gone too. That's 7 players we are not sure about.

My guess is we'll try to re-sign PJ and one of Cassell or House, keep Allen and Posey and grab one more veteran with the MLE. At the most, maybe we'll do a move like #30+cash for the Suns pick - they're always looking for cash...


I'm not sure which world you're living in, but Powe is not really important to us, and Wallace is long gone. Also, we don't need to re-sign Posey if he doesn't opt out (which I am certain he won't).
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Post#28 » by bceltic55 » Mon May 26, 2008 12:03 pm

I do not see House, PJ, Cassell or Scal on the team next season. We will need a PG and a PF /C.
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Post#29 » by Turgon » Mon May 26, 2008 2:29 pm

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I'm not sure which world you're living in, but Powe is not really important to us, and Wallace is long gone.


I'm sorry, but Powe has proved his worth. He played nearly 15 minutes in 56 games during the regular season, and nearly 14 minutes in 15 playoff games. He is a key bench player and still has a lot of upside. I doubt Danny would let him go or even trade him. I don't believe we can draft someone that will be able to contribute as much as he does and a couple of veteran signings can be done while still keeping him.

I'd keep Powe over anyone else on our bench, except maybe Posey. As for Wallace, you're absolutely right! I didn't remember we had waived him in December and that his contract was only partially guaranteed. Sorry for that one.

Also, we don't need to re-sign Posey if he doesn't opt out (which I am certain he won't).


Right. But I wouldn't mind having him sign a slightly lower 3 year contract and I bet he would jump into that. That was my assumption.

I do not see House, PJ, Cassell or Scal on the team next season.


I can see PJ staying for another year. He still has some gas on the tank and he has been contributing a lot in the playoffs. The others, I would have to agree with you. But I can't see us being able to trade Scal. What could a package of Scal + Tony (or anyone other tradeable asset) + pick net us? Not a lot, probably. Maybe next year, when he becomes an expiring contract.
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Post#30 » by billfromBoston » Mon May 26, 2008 6:11 pm

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I'm not sure which world you're living in, but Powe is not really important to us, and Wallace is long gone. Also, we don't need to re-sign Posey if he doesn't opt out (which I am certain he won't).


...ya, our LEADING SCORER off the bench the last 2 months of the season isn't very important to us...a 2nd year player who cracked a 66 win team's rotation and put up 15/10 every time he played 20 minutes is completely expendable...

... :crazy: ....
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Post#31 » by 7seventynine9 » Mon May 26, 2008 6:25 pm

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...ya, our LEADING SCORER off the bench the last 2 months of the season isn't very important to us...a 2nd year player who cracked a 66 win team's rotation and put up 15/10 every time he played 20 minutes is completely expendable...

... :crazy: ....[/quote]


Hes still a bench player and finding a player of his calibre isnt exactly hard. Hes not Paul Pierce, KG or Ray Allen. Hes definitely an NBA player though and people wanting to package him to move up 5 or 6 slots are insane, and people who think Powe TA and the 30 will net a lottery pick need to hook me up with their dealer. Hes worth more on the Celtics than any other team based on his trade value, so I see no reason getting rid of him.

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