Tony Allen

[captain_cheapseats]

So is there any word on what the deal with T. Allen is? Obviously he probably isn't going to come back here, but has anyone read anything about possible destinations for our good friend TA?

[Truthiracy]

Haven't heard anything about him actually, I bet he signs with Detroit

[TheCelticTruth]

i think other teams are as concerned about his head as i am

[SonicYouth34]

I hope he resigns with us, but if he doesn't I don't want him in the eastern conference; especially if he's back to full strength

[TheCelticTruth]

hes back at full strength physically, its his brain that isnt.

the body works again, the mind... i dunno i feel like theres some traumatization there. hes like a deer in headlights

[Celtics_85]

I can't believe all the crap TA gets from the fans on this board. Before his injury everyone was on his bandwagon, and now that he is getting back to full health everyone is throwing him under the bus. He is getting screwed by Ainge and I hope he goes to a team that he can help win a title and make Ainge pay for his stupidity. His qualifying offer was just over 2 million and they couldn't afford to give it to him? I see people getting on the Walker wagon that put TA down for his injuries, and Walker has had more than TA. Walker proved last year that you can get your explosiveness back after a serious knee injury, and TA was getting his back toward the end of last year, but Ainge just let him go like that. If Ainge thought he could get TA back for cheaper than his qualifying offer, then TA can get the same type money from another team that would actually appreciate him. Danny dropped the ball here with his decision on TA. Ainge better hope that Maggette takes the MLE to come here because I don't see Posey coming back, and after what he did to TA he isn't coming back either and then as usual the fans will have a change of heart and blame TA for not wanting to come back and the others will blame Ainge, yes, the same ones that bashed him. This is just how the fans on this board are, all over the place with the way they see things with this team. To finish up here, neither Walker or Giddens will help this team next year thwe way TA could have.

[TheCelticTruth]

doctors were calling tony healthy a while back, so im not sure where you are getting "working back from injury" now. coming on at the end of the year? that didnt happen. we couldve used him, even at 50%, if he would play with some intensity. but if he played with intensity maybe hed get hurt again...

personally, i hope it all works out for him, but mentally i dont see the fortitude anymore

[MVP16]

doctors were calling tony healthy a while back, so im not sure where you are getting "working back from injury" now. coming on at the end of the year? that didnt happen. we couldve used him, even at 50%, if he would play with some intensity. but if he played with intensity maybe hed get hurt again...

personally, i hope it all works out for him, but mentally i dont see the fortitude anymore

Look at a guy like Nenad Kristic who had the same thing happen to him and he was horrible this year. It takes a year to get healthy, get confidence in your game and get your game back. You may be "healthy" by doctors standards, but that doesn't mean that you have your athleticism/explosiveness back or you are confident in your knee yet. If TA stays healthy, I expect him to have somewhat of a breakout season next year depending on the situation that he is in. If we can't get Maggette or keep Posey, I'm hoping we can get TA back for something like 2 years 3-4 million.

The only rumor I heard is that Toronto were looking into him (along with House) to be their 13th man. I don't see it happening because neither will go to Toronto to be a 13th man. I would guess that TA will have to wait until guys like Maggette, Posey, Pietrus, etc. get their deals before he gets his...which might take awhile.

[Celtics_85]

If you go back to the very end of the season you willsee that it was then that TA didn't wear the bulky knee brace. This helped him get more of his fluid motion back, which is essential to his mobility. TA was a cap casualty that shouldn't have happened. He should have been given the qualifying offer to prove his worth to this team next year in which he would have had no problem doing. His biggest strength was his defense that didn't suffer too bad all season as he showed he could still defend rather well all year.

[Spin Move]

TA had a great 18 game stretch where he played like an almost near borderline all star, the rest of his career he has played like someone who doesn't belong in the nba for the most part. The dude does not have it between the ears to be a starter on good team. If we returns to form he can be a valuable bench player for someone but not us. No more TA for me, his D is overated and this year he was not good at scoring let somoene else have the risk I think walker is a better prospect with balky knees.

[armageddon]

Its ignorant to say that Ainge or the Celtics are screwing Tony. His contract expired and they don't think he's worth nearly 3 million. They've been patient and understanding with both injuries and gave him the benefit of doubt on the whole shooting incident. He has a championship ring. How is TA getting screwed? He's getting the chance to go to whatever team he wants for whatever pay he can get.

[MVP16]

TA had a great 18 game stretch where he played like an almost near borderline all star, the rest of his career he has played like someone who doesn't belong in the nba for the most part. The dude does not have it between the ears to be a starter on good team. If we returns to form he can be a valuable bench player for someone but not us. No more TA for me, his D is overated and this year he was not good at scoring let somoene else have the risk I think walker is a better prospect with balky knees.

I disagree that all TA had was an 18 game stretch. I agree that one of his weaknesses is a lack of focus, but he still brings great things to a team, especially for the cost.

TA had a pretty good rookie year starting 34 games for a playoff team. He hit the rookie wall towards the end, but overall it was a very good rookie year for a late 1st round pick...how many actually start for playoff teams?

Then during the off season TA had surgery on his knee, came back a few months into the season and was awful. In the last 10 games of the season though, he put up 14 points, 3 assists, 3 rebounds and 2.3 steals per game.

Of course, the next season, after a slow start, TA broke out and was the best player on the team when Pierce went down. Then he tore his ACL and was done.

This season, he started off expectedly slow, but his numbers improved each month until February. After that, he seemed to regress towards the end.

So if you look at the track record...solid rookie year when healthy...gets injured and sucks during 2nd year until the end when has a good last 10 games or so...has great stretch to start 3rd season...gets injured again...inconsistent 4th season. If you follow the trend, TA should be back to good TA next season if he stays healthy. If you can't keep Posey or get Maggette and can get TA for 1.5-2 million a year, I don't see why not keep him around.

[sully00]

I think that Tony will wait to see things play out in Boston. Beyond Ainge who is loyal to draft picks, the fact of the matter is Doc loves the kid, always has and has never had a moments doubt when there was plenty of reason to have it. The kid isn't worth 2.75 mil and it is an odd ball number, god bless him if he gets it or more, but if he can't he can probably still get more in Boston than anywhere else if we have a roster spot. He can always go for the type of deal that Posey signed a kind of make good deal.

[TheCelticTruth]

to me, the recoveries of powe and walker both seem better. this is walkers third injury and im sure he will attack the rim as fiercely as ever. and we all know leon.

its nothing against tony, but i agree with spin move and armageddon, i just dont think he fits like we need him to.

[ryaningf]

If we miss out on Posey and Maggette, Tony is a great option. He's young, cheap, and hungry; and when healthy, he's a better player than James Posey. Doc himself said that during the practices between Finals games, Tony was showing flashes of finally fully recovering from his knee injury. Don't be surprised to see him back. I, for one, think he's gonna break out next season.

[3pt %]

We all have our opinions and every bloody TA thread we trot them out again, so here goes:

I believe TA is an instinct player who needs some healthy time to get his timing/game right. Whenthat happens he is starter quality for most teams and at least rotation quality for the world champions Boston Celtics.

The big question is whether he will ever be healthy enough to play to that potential

[campybatman]

Until, the team's able to sign Giddens. I think Tony Allen remains as a potential resigning.

[return2glory]

I like J.R. Giddens but I also want TA back. I have a feeling he will have a very good year next season. TA also has a great attitude and is a team player. Just look at the playoff games. He didn't play in most fo the games but was cheering for his teammates.

[JMillott]

I would actually much rather have Tony Allen re-signed on the cheap then to have the Celtics over pay to keep James Posey. If Posey doesn't want to take the 20% raise on the 3.8 million for three years that the Celtics offered i'd rather let him leave.

PG Rondo/House/Pruitt
SG Allen/Allen/Pierce
SF Pierce/Giddens
PF Garnett/Powe
C Perkins/Garnett/Davis

I would be much happier to see this team find a legit center and point guard off the bench like say Delonte West and Alonzo Mourning.

[TheCelticTruth]

If we miss out on Posey and Maggette, Tony is a great option. He's young, cheap, and hungry; and when healthy, he's a better player than James Posey. Doc himself said that during the practices between Finals games, Tony was showing flashes of finally fully recovering from his knee injury. Don't be surprised to see him back. I, for one, think he's gonna break out next season.

we saw, or at least i did, flashes for at least half the season, so forgive me if my patientce has turned into bewilderment as to where any contribution has been from him.

also, i think if danny and doc agreed, and especially if they thought he was anywhere near as good as posey, let alone maggette, they wouldve gave him the QO while his stock was low