Childress?

[bruno sundov]

Childress doesn't make any sense to me. He does everything average and people say he do anything. Well lets start with shooting and playing D, can he do that? NO.

He has a career .522 career fg%, a .360 3p%. And he is a good defender. So yeah, he is good.

Agreed. And let's face it, he was coming off the bench FOR THE HAWKS...Scal could probably look pretty good doing that, too!

Scal did look good in that coming from NJ in the same role. That is why DA signed him. I still say Jkid should get half of scals cetls comtract.

Scal has never shot better than .402%. Scal's career high in PER was 11.0 (his career average is 7.9 (lg avg. is 15.0)). Childress's career low in PER is 15.2 (during his rookie year) and his career average is 16.2.

Do not compare Scal to Childress. It is like comparing Gerald Green to Kobe Bryant.

I never bothered to look up his numbers. I know what my eyes tell me and his game is painful to watch. he does nothing great include playing D. That high shooting percentage is shocking to me. He just deson't seem to shoot the ball well. His shot is uglier that Tayshauns shot.

[JoshB914]

Just so you guys know, Chill is NOT a good defender. I'm not sure how he got this reputation outside of Atlanta, but he is too slow laterally to cover quick guards and too weak to cover big forwards. He's a solid role player, but he is not a good defender like the "experts" say.

Good luck!

[bruno sundov]

Just so you guys know, Chill is NOT a good defender. I'm not sure how he got this reputation outside of Atlanta, but he is too slow laterally to cover quick guards and too weak to cover big forwards. He's a solid role player, but he is not a good defender like the "experts" say.

Good luck!

Thank you MR. Josh B. For squashing the myths.

[sully00]

Just so you guys know, Chill is NOT a good defender. I'm not sure how he got this reputation outside of Atlanta, but he is too slow laterally to cover quick guards and too weak to cover big forwards. He's a solid role player, but he is not a good defender like the "experts" say.

Good luck!

While this is true James Posey is too slow to guard athletic SF's and too small to guard legit PF's. Childress is a better man defender on the wing than Posey and a bright kid who would do well in Boston's team defense.

Tomabattor it is funny to read you be so critical of everyone else opinion on this and for you not to realize that you are living in the past as much as others are living in the future. This isn't about last year anymore than it is 2 or 3 years from now. Chances are very good that we just saw the end of James Posey's 5-6 year prime, while Childress is a simliar player about to enter his.

Beyond that when you are nplayers to contracts there is a value issue. Childress at 5.6 mil is a bargain he is worth more than that as a player. At the same time Posey is a solid buy at 2-3 years even if overpriced at 4-5 years he is a dead money contract.

[armageddon]

Childress was soft in college, is soft now, and will be soft in the future. I rather not have him and if he was available, that in itself speaks volumes. He's not a max MLE guy.

[bruno sundov]

What we really need is a gary trent,anthony mason, danny fortson type. Just a piece who will rip off your head for even going to the basket. Perk played well this year but KG still had to do to much. Even if he did average his lowest minutes pts, and rebounds in a long time.

[Gomes3PC]

Having a Maxiell-type would be nice bruno, but I think BBD can give you that already on the team (even if he is a goof off the court). If we add a big, I want him to be 6-10 or taller. With PJ leaving, we need someone behind KPerk who could handle real minutes at center and defend legit 7-footers in the post.

[tombattor]

sully, buckner, etc., how much of Josh Childress have you guys seen before the playoffs series against us? I think you guys are making an assumption based on how well the Hawks played against us and Childress' stats.

As I said in the beginning, I think he's a decent player, but I don't see him as a certain upgrade from Posey. Yes, their age difference tells you that Childress will eventually become better than Posey, as Posey gets older and Childress enters his prime. However, I don't think that really matters to us, who's slightly better in 3 years.

But the bottom line is, Childress doesn't play tough D the way Posey does and doesn't have the track record of being a vital cog to championship teams. I'm pretty sure he averaged more points than Posey in the playoffs, but it's just because Childress has a bigger role on offense for the Hawks than Posey had for the Celtics.

IMO, Posey is similar to Horry, in that, he's not going to go out and get you 12-5 during the regular season, but when the playoffs comes around, he can be counted on to make a significant contribution. And Posey has done that twice already for 2 title teams. And on this team, that's exactly what we need. We can get into the playoffs with young guys like Big Baby, Pruitt, etc. get more minutes, but when the playoffs comes, I want to see my battle-tested veterans in there. It's worked for us this year and I don't see why it wouldn't again, next year.

[Athanacropolis]

sully, buckner, etc., how much of Josh Childress have you guys seen before the playoffs series against us? I think you guys are making an assumption based on how well the Hawks played against us and Childress' stats.

As I said in the beginning, I think he's a decent player, but I don't see him as a certain upgrade from Posey. Yes, their age difference tells you that Childress will eventually become better than Posey, as Posey gets older and Childress enters his prime. However, I don't think that really matters to us, who's slightly better in 3 years.

But the bottom line is, Childress doesn't play tough D the way Posey does and doesn't have the track record of being a vital cog to championship teams. I'm pretty sure he averaged more points than Posey in the playoffs, but it's just because Childress has a bigger role on offense for the Hawks than Posey had for the Celtics.

IMO, Posey is similar to Horry, in that, he's not going to go out and get you 12-5 during the regular season, but when the playoffs comes around, he can be counted on to make a significant contribution. And Posey has done that twice already for 2 title teams. And on this team, that's exactly what we need. We can get into the playoffs with young guys like Big Baby, Pruitt, etc. get more minutes, but when the playoffs comes, I want to see my battle-tested veterans in there. It's worked for us this year and I don't see why it wouldn't again, next year.

Exactly! Childress might very well fit in on a veteran team like the Celtics, but instead of Posey? No thanks. Nice player, just not what the Celtics need at this point.

[MyInsatiableOne]

^^LIke I said previously in this thread, it's all about judging the player in context

[sully00]

I have seen plenty of Childress. This isn't about 3 years from now, Josh Childress, just like Corey Maggette, is a better basketball player than James Posey right now, it will only get more drastic over the next 3 years. Josh Childress is a player capable of starter production off of the bench James Posey is a player capable of bench production when he starts.

While Posey added to Rondo and Perk was a perfect compliment to Paul, Ray, and KG this season as this roster moves forward they are going to need more options to take on the scoring load. At the moment we have 3 guys who will do well to score in double figures no matter how many mins they play.

I respect James defense but the way the East and especially the Atlantic is shaping up he is going to struggle to match up at the PF spot defensively and while he does a good job defending the SF spot it simply puts all the burden of guarding the SG on Pierce and Allen. Looking at Boston's roster they have more NBA ready options at the 4 spot than they do at the 2 spot.

Childress and Posey are not the same player, you have to look at each player's postives and negatives. I just think you are holding on to something that isn't there if you think that Posey brings more or what he brings is more valuable.

[tombattor]

Sully, you make some good points, but the way I see it, there are players who fit us better and players who don't.

That's the thing with Childress. I recognize that he can do variety of things. He's even got the length and quickness to play decent defense. However, he's not a the tough defender Posey is and he hasn't proven himself to be the kind of player that can step up in crucial moments off the bench, which Posey has.

Also, he's not a 3-point threat Posey is. When you just look at Childress' 3-point percentages (.367), it looks like he's a good shooter, but he's not. Most teams don't even play him that deep and in fact, they pretty much dare him to take the 3-pointers, the way teams dare Rondo to take a jumper. Which means, other teams will leave him to double down on KG, PP, or whoever, just like they did with Rondo. And we saw how important Posey was in that role.

[bruno sundov]

Having a Maxiell-type would be nice bruno, but I think BBD can give you that already on the team (even if he is a goof off the court). If we add a big, I want him to be 6-10 or taller. With PJ leaving, we need someone behind KPerk who could handle real minutes at center and defend legit 7-footers in the post.

BBD is good. I don't know if he is what I'm talking about. Just an animal that would knock his grandmother over for a lose ball. Someone who if given the minutes could be a top rebounder in the L. What Leon is but 4-6" taller.

[GuyClinch]

BBD is good. I don't know if he is what I'm talking about. Just an animal that would knock his grandmother over for a lose ball. Someone who if given the minutes could be a top rebounder in the L. What Leon is but 4-6" taller.

Oh you mean Dwight Howard with better low post skills? Yeah let's go out and get that guy..<g>

[bruno sundov]

BBD is good. I don't know if he is what I'm talking about. Just an animal that would knock his grandmother over for a lose ball. Someone who if given the minutes could be a top rebounder in the L. What Leon is but 4-6" taller.

Oh you mean Dwight Howard with better low post skills? Yeah let's go out and get that guy..<g>

NO. What I mean is a Danny fortson, Charles Oakley type. An enforcer who is big,strong and can rebound at a high rate. Also has a descente offensive game. Why is that so outrageous.

Here would be some other examples:

Ben wallace
Matt Gieger
Kurt Thomas
Kato
Dennis Rodman
Elden Campbell

Those type os guys. I don't see any studs in there like Josh Howard.