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Re: Topic for Discussion: Iverson next off-season? 

Post#41 » by billfromBoston » Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:40 pm

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MVP16 wrote:If AI would come here for the MLE that's a no brainer IMO. He would come in knowing that he is down the food chain with the big 3 already here so the only purpose would be to get a ring. Minutes wouldn't be too big of a problem since we would try to conserve Ray, Pierce, AI during the regular season. Each could average around 28-30 minutes/game and with the amount of minutes they have played during their careers, they would welcome that. I think that's one of the reasons why DA didn't sign Posey to a long term contract...he knew there is chance that we could land someone like AI (or some other older star) for the MLE in the next 1-2 years. But if AI is willing to take the MLE to sign with a contender, everyone will be offering him that so the chances would be slim.


...not true...if Iverson is looking for a contender, than it doesn't matter how many teams can offer the MLE...there are only 2-3 teams that fit the criteria of high probability title contender-Celtics have to be number 1 in that scenario with 3 HoFers already on the roster...i'd say that IF Iverson is down with the MLE, we are a likely destination...


But you have to consider that Iverson would think that if you add him to a really good team, that they would become a contender. Philadelphia, for example, is not a contender right now IMO. But if AI joins(and a year of development of their young players), he can be the one who can push them over the top. Others who are contenders or can become contenders adding AI next year are San Antonio, Lakers, New Orleans, Utah, Detroit, Cleveland, Orlando and Houston. That's 9 teams not including us that are contenders or could become one adding AI. And going to a team that is he can push over the top rather then joining one of the elite teams might be more intriguing to him since he would get a bigger role and more credit.


I think its completely valid that he'd weigh the team based on his role as well as its potential to contend...I can't read Iverson's mind, but I don't view Orlando and Philly as "high probabiliy" contenders, even with Iverson...Utah, Detroit, LA all have more scoring in front of him, so he'd be less necissary offensively which he may not like...NO, SA, BOS, CLE seem like the best destinations...I think that CLE/BOS get the edge because of the paucity of true competition in the East relative to the West...no matter if Philly, Tor or anyone else improved, they are still below Boston for the next couple of seasons...

I think it comes down to Cleveland and Boston...Cleveland would let Iverson be himself-starter, 2nd scorer behind Lebron, etc...he may enjoy that more than being the 6th man on Boston...however, Boston with Iverson completely trumps anyone else in the East, so choosing Boston almost guarentees a trip to the finals for him each year. Picking Cleveland may put them over the top, but the road would still be rocky...depends on if he likes a challenge or a sure-thing...

I do think that Iverson could easily see 30-35 minutes a night on Boston though...figure Rondo in for 30 minutes, Ray Allen in for 30-33, and that leaves 33-36 minutes at the 1 and 2. These minutes would see Iverson as a principle scorer/ball-handler as one of Rondo/Ray would be out when he was in...this is right in his wheelhouse...

It is Danny's job to sell Iverson on the scenario I laid out above-but that's what he excels at...I think there is a great chance IF the interest is there by both parties...
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Re: Topic for Discussion: Iverson next off-season? 

Post#42 » by greenbeans » Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:49 pm

hopefully Denver falls apart this year and nobody wants to trade for him that way he gets bought-out thus speeding up the process. *takes another blast off of bong*
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Re: Topic for Discussion: Iverson next off-season? 

Post#43 » by Celtsfan1980 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:41 am

Eddie House has a player option. They had used part of the MLE on him. Does that count towards part of the MLE if House accepts the player option? I don't see them signing Iverson or Wallace if that's the case?
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Re: Topic for Discussion: Iverson next off-season? 

Post#44 » by Fencer reregistered » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:36 am

Celtsfan1980 wrote:Eddie House has a player option. They had used part of the MLE on him. Does that count towards part of the MLE if House accepts the player option? I don't see them signing Iverson or Wallace if that's the case?


It would.

However, it's 100% certain that would never be a problem. That's because the Cs could tear up House's contract, and give him a new better one that doesn't use the MLE (because you can give your current players 20% or so raises in new contracts w/o touching the MLE).
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Re: Topic for Discussion: Iverson next off-season? 

Post#45 » by floyd » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:05 pm

House accepting or rejecting his option year will have no effect on the MLE that year. MLE is used when a team (over the cap) signs a free agent to a new contract and only effects that year's MLE.
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Re: Topic for Discussion: Iverson next off-season? 

Post#46 » by sully00 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:43 pm

I love Allen Iverson and would love to see him in Boston. Now he may take the MLE in the perfect situation, and he may take a 6th man role, but he isn't going to to do both. If you follow, a playoff team could offer him his 40 mpg and a chance to take them to the Finals for the MLE, and a contender like say PHX or SA could offer him a 6th man role at legit money in a S&T but he will have too many options to accept a bench role and MLE money. The guy may well have had the best year of his career last season and played more mins and all 82 games.

I don't see AI leaving DEN while Karl is still there and even if he does he is perhaps the one guy in the entire sport that can take almost any roster and make it competitive. There will be plenty of bridesmaids next year, with capspace, TPE's, or expiring contracts that struck out recruiting the top talents and plenty of them would rather take their chances on AI for 3 years than throwing 5 years at some guy who may never be half of him.
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Re: Topic for Discussion: Iverson next off-season? 

Post#47 » by bruno sundov » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:02 pm

AI has a role on any winning team in the L. i would take him. But also He would have to take a huge pay cut and I don't see that happening.


I would like to thin it could, but it won't. He wants to get paid and play hard. There is nothing with that at all. i wish more did the same.
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Re: Topic for Discussion: Iverson next off-season? 

Post#48 » by floyd » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:15 pm

Between O'bryant, Tony, House (if he picks up his option), and Scal, we'll have over 10 mil in expiring contracts next offseason to get in the mix.
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Re: Topic for Discussion: Iverson next off-season? 

Post#49 » by 3pt % » Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:44 pm

If AI hasn't declined and you can get that type of talent for the MLE, hell yes.

Then you let KG, P2 and Jesus show him how good it can be winning and sharing the ball.

Can you imagine trying to bring the ball up against a Rondo/AI back court?

Down by 1... KG, Pierce, Jesus and AI on the court with Rondo at the top of the key ready to drive and dish... **** yes.
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