OT: Gerald Green Dallas vs Chicago

[MyInsatiableOne]

Ricky was smart and could play D. I still haven't seen someone come off a pick like Ricky D did when he was here. You knew if he was open the ball was going in the hopp from 20' in.

G$ supporters you can abse you areguments on sentences starting with the word,IF. IF he bceomes a better defender. If he gets a better handle. If he isn't just a great playground player.

Like I said, he's an athletic freak who happens to play basketball, not the other way around...and that's his problem.

[bruno sundov]

That must suck having so many physical skills and nto a clue how to use them to your benefit.

It's as if God said here ya and good luck with that. WHat a cruel joke.

[MyInsatiableOne]

That must suck having so many physical skills and nto a clue how to use them to your benefit.

It's as if God said here ya and good luck with that. WHat a cruel joke.

The thing is he DOESN'T have that many skills. Here's an example: he's a better ATHLETE than Jordan, but Jordan has him beat every other way. Same with Bird, Magic, Pierce, Kobe, LeBron, etc...

[GuyClinch]

^^^ I absolutely don't think he was a better athlete then Jordan. You have to understand the dunk contest is a bit like gymnastics or ice skating - in that guys can study the older dunks and learn from them. So yeah if you judge only by the dunk contest he is better athlete. But HS guys can do the Jordan dunks now. But he is not a better athlete in terms of how well he is blessed to play sports.

Jordan was faster, much stronger, and had far better body control. His lateral quickness was FAR superior - which is huge in hoops. Jordan also was a pretty good baseball player (yeah compared to other pros kinda weak sauce but not many of us could step into the AAA and compete) - and he is a very good golfer.

Gerald Green has wasted his talent no doubt but I think that because he is a great leaper his athletic gifts get a bit overemphasized. Is he really that much more gifted then a guy like Pierce who is SO much stronger and seems quite a bit more coordinated..

Pete

[wetsthebed]

Here's an example: he's a better ATHLETE than Jordan

Not even close.

[bruno sundov]

MJ was special in that he had the athletic ability and the drive to win and improve his team. LBJ has that and he is the closest thing to MJ we might ever see again. Please don't say KB. I think the finals, FINALLY crushed that notion.

[NO-KG-AI]

Gerald Green jumps high.... he's not lighting quick, he's rail thin, and he poor body control.

But he jumps high.

[MyInsatiableOne]

Here's an example: he's a better ATHLETE than Jordan

Not even close.

I should clarify, Jordan was an AMAZING athlete, but was he ever considered a "freak" the way so many of these guys are now??

[3pt %]

check out the dunk comps.
and the hang time.
you don't the hanle 'air' because you have a nice turn around jumper.
When jordan hit the league, it was between him and a couple of other players as to who was the most athletic.. then Jordan destroyed the others.

[Mahoney_jr]

Here's an example: he's a better ATHLETE than Jordan

Not even close.

I should clarify, Jordan was an AMAZING athlete, but was he ever considered a "freak" the way so many of these guys are now??

he was an athletic freak. leaping, coordination, ideal size with long arms and incredible (big) hands.

[MyInsatiableOne]

he was an athletic freak. leaping, coordination, ideal size with long arms and incredible (big) hands.

I agree...my point is when people talk about Jordan it's not "oh my god he's a freak", it's about the skills, the athleticism, the intangibles...when anyone talks about G$, Kedrick, etc it's ALL about the freakishness and then "oh yeah, he can kinda play, too"

[Prophet_C]

MIO just got owned. lol Stop trying to save face. haha

[MyInsatiableOne]

MIO just got owned. lol Stop trying to save face. haha

No ownage...no one is actually UNDERSTANDING what I'm trying to say...**** difficulty with typing vs talking...

[sam_I_am]

Athletic ability is so hard to measure. The stuff you can measure easily - jumping, 40 yard dash, bench press etc. doesn't tell the whole story. Larry Bird was an amazing athlete. His intelligence and drive were what made him great but how many 6-10 guys are so fluid on their feet? Since 1981 I can only count 3 guys that big who had the dexterity to shoot, pass, dribble, run, catch, jump etc. They are Magic, Lebron and Dirk Nowitski.

Sure, Gerald can jump higher than Larry and can run faster but in every other way he is a worse athlete. I think Pete hit the nail on the head. Gerald Green is just a basketball example of the former WR Nehemiah who was the fastest guy in the NFL and a former track and field superstar who simply wasn't athletic enough to play wide receiver. He had no coordination, no grace, none of the athletic prowess required to change direction or run tight routes etc.

[wetsthebed]

he was an athletic freak. leaping, coordination, ideal size with long arms and incredible (big) hands.

I agree...my point is when people talk about Jordan it's not "oh my god he's a freak", it's about the skills, the athleticism, the intangibles...when anyone talks about G$, Kedrick, etc it's ALL about the freakishness and then "oh yeah, he can kinda play, too"

That's because he had so much more going for him other than the freak athleticism, so it wasn't singled out. Guys like Gerald and Kedrick are talked about as athletic freaks because that's basically all they are.

[MyInsatiableOne]

^^Thank you for helping me make my argument!