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Re: LOL @ the Lakers - Bynum wants $17m 

Post#121 » by Dogen » Sat Nov 1, 2008 3:01 pm

davidse wrote:the point you guys just dont' seem to get is that this is basicaly a 3 year deal, in which bynum's average salary will be less than 14 mil.
that is a pretty great deal for that type of talent (don't forget those stats last year came with only 28 mpg) - without having to commit to him for the full 5 years, and that's what the lakers were looking for.
this type of deal makes sure that bynum can't "rest" and has to continue working on his game and body or his 4th year option won't get picked up, and it also allows the team some insurance in case of injury, or in case anything happens with his recent injury - although all signs point to him being 100% healthy.

the lakers will gladly pay a max deal for what they believe bynum is becoming, but they just bought themselves time to wait and see if that is indeed the case - 3 years in which bynum will make less than 14 mil on the average. i'll take that any day.

had the lakers waitet till next summer, they would have probably ended up paying more, and comitting to bynum for 5 years rather than 3.
the upside of waiting would have been some "insurance" in case he gets a serious injury this season or his old injury acts up.
so why not wait ?

because there is a flip side, and it's something that too many fans ignore -
it's that having an impending free agent who's looking at his first huge contract on your roster when you see yourself as serious title contenders (if not favorites - sorry celtics), could seriously hurt your team THIS season and your chance at that title.

the lakers are expecting bynum to do a lot of the dirty work this season - defense and rebounding, and with the roster so stacked, a lot of his offensive capabilities will not be on display.
you can't expect that from a player if you refused to give him an extention. it's gonna come back and bite you, and could seriously hurt the team. just look at what happend to the bulls last season..

so what happens now ?
bynum is secured and relaxed, and he does everything phil jackson wants him to, without concerns of how his offensive production would affect the offers he'll get next summer.

i know you'll hate hearing this as celtic fans, but what the lakers just did - regardless of future implications - is also to improve their CURRENT team.
they secured themselves a relaxed player willing to do whatever the coach tells him to win, over a player concerned with his own stats for future negotiations.
and like i said - when you see yourself as a serious contender for the title - that ^ is a major consideration that had to be on their minds.

this is a great deal for both bynum and the lakers, and if everything goes as planned, the fourth year will never even come into play, as bynum will get a max extention at the end of year 3.


I agree with this assessment. A young 7' with that much talent? You lock him up.

I didn't think Bynum was quite there yet last year, but he looks very good from what I've seen so far this year. Total no-brainer to not have the uncertainty surrounding the season.

Bottom line: Lakers are going to be even better this year. And that's good because we all like excellent basketball. I expect Danny is trying to find a way to bring in some more size without giving up our bench depth.

Cleveland improved, NO improved, LA improved. We'll need to replace the Posey/Brown factor sometime during the season. This year I think the Celtics take LA in seven games--- in their house. 8-)
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Re: LOL @ the Lakers - Bynum wants $17m 

Post#122 » by davidse » Sat Nov 1, 2008 5:35 pm

Dogen wrote:
davidse wrote:the point you guys just dont' seem to get is that this is basicaly a 3 year deal, in which bynum's average salary will be less than 14 mil.
that is a pretty great deal for that type of talent (don't forget those stats last year came with only 28 mpg) - without having to commit to him for the full 5 years, and that's what the lakers were looking for.
this type of deal makes sure that bynum can't "rest" and has to continue working on his game and body or his 4th year option won't get picked up, and it also allows the team some insurance in case of injury, or in case anything happens with his recent injury - although all signs point to him being 100% healthy.

the lakers will gladly pay a max deal for what they believe bynum is becoming, but they just bought themselves time to wait and see if that is indeed the case - 3 years in which bynum will make less than 14 mil on the average. i'll take that any day.

had the lakers waitet till next summer, they would have probably ended up paying more, and comitting to bynum for 5 years rather than 3.
the upside of waiting would have been some "insurance" in case he gets a serious injury this season or his old injury acts up.
so why not wait ?

because there is a flip side, and it's something that too many fans ignore -
it's that having an impending free agent who's looking at his first huge contract on your roster when you see yourself as serious title contenders (if not favorites - sorry celtics), could seriously hurt your team THIS season and your chance at that title.

the lakers are expecting bynum to do a lot of the dirty work this season - defense and rebounding, and with the roster so stacked, a lot of his offensive capabilities will not be on display.
you can't expect that from a player if you refused to give him an extention. it's gonna come back and bite you, and could seriously hurt the team. just look at what happend to the bulls last season..

so what happens now ?
bynum is secured and relaxed, and he does everything phil jackson wants him to, without concerns of how his offensive production would affect the offers he'll get next summer.

i know you'll hate hearing this as celtic fans, but what the lakers just did - regardless of future implications - is also to improve their CURRENT team.
they secured themselves a relaxed player willing to do whatever the coach tells him to win, over a player concerned with his own stats for future negotiations.
and like i said - when you see yourself as a serious contender for the title - that ^ is a major consideration that had to be on their minds.

this is a great deal for both bynum and the lakers, and if everything goes as planned, the fourth year will never even come into play, as bynum will get a max extention at the end of year 3.


I agree with this assessment. A young 7' with that much talent? You lock him up.

I didn't think Bynum was quite there yet last year, but he looks very good from what I've seen so far this year. Total no-brainer to not have the uncertainty surrounding the season.

Bottom line: Lakers are going to be even better this year. And that's good because we all like excellent basketball. I expect Danny is trying to find a way to bring in some more size without giving up our bench depth.

Cleveland improved, NO improved, LA improved. We'll need to replace the Posey/Brown factor sometime during the season. This year I think the Celtics take LA in seven games--- in their house. 8-)


well, these teams (and others - rockets...) did get stronger, and the celtics probably got weaker, but don't forget you started off as the best and it's up to others to catch up - so who knows... :wink:

anyway, see you in the finals 8-)
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Re: LOL @ the Lakers - Bynum wants $17m 

Post#123 » by Dr Aki » Mon Nov 3, 2008 6:47 am

greenbeans wrote:
anklebreaker702 wrote:That's cause you cant take it!!!!! Once it comes down to speaking with intelligence and basketball IQ you cant hang. To all you fools who dont want to talk facts & just want to battle.......... dont contemplate a tangle, cause i wipe fools out like the bermuda triangle!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiSzZlPmE2w


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Re: LOL @ the Lakers - Bynum wants $17m 

Post#124 » by sully00 » Mon Nov 3, 2008 3:23 pm

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sully00 wrote:anklebreaker

That crap is not welcome here.
What hitting you guys with facts & having basketball I.Q. & logic?


Facts? All I have read from you is BS and personal attacks that is what isn't welcome here. Show some class or go the hell away.

As for Deep Yellow again for better or worse roster wise Boston's **** is tight for a year or two. Not that everything is great but we don't have a lot moving pieces and nothing big is really out there to happen except for Rondo and that is more likely to go slow than fast.

This idea that the Lakers saved themselves money is nonsense. The only thing they could have saved on is commitment but even then they gave up a year of assessment for the privilege of only making a 3 year **** up instead of a 5, which may well be a nightmare senario of them having to extend this deal with him still being a fringe starter production wise. No other team was going to be able to put together an offer sheet with more money in the first 3 years than the Lakers are paying him for.

Obviously the kid is in the long term plans but for whatever reason they chose to handcuff themsleves.
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Re: LOL @ the Lakers - Bynum wants $17m 

Post#125 » by eatyourchildren » Mon Nov 3, 2008 3:34 pm

sully, there's 2 points you're missing

1. Bynum's salary is backloaded, so the shortness of the contract (that being the 4th year option) IS financial flexibility
2. On a championship caliber team, you want as little contract distractions as possible, which the Lakers are more than willing to pay for.
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Re: LOL @ the Lakers - Bynum wants $17m 

Post#126 » by MyInsatiableOne » Mon Nov 3, 2008 6:06 pm

Laker dynasty 2007-2099!!! WHOHOO!

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It's still 17 to 11!!!!
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Re: LOL @ the Lakers - Bynum wants $17m 

Post#127 » by TonyMontana » Tue Nov 4, 2008 5:28 pm

bruno sundov wrote:
anklebreaker702 wrote:THIS IS FOR BRUNO, You are by far the weakest poster on the Celtic board, all you do is talk trash just like I said & have very few facts. I really don't acknowledge you as a poster so until you come with something worth talking about your dismissed. I don't have 2 prove anything, I have had very good volly's with knowledgeable C's fan & i'm all good with them, just realize u r a waste of a good missionary style workout!



Just making the point that the act from Laker fans has been rolling since June. It is old and tired. Facts on AB have all been stated. I just dont know why you come here and talk so much junk. I'm going to give the you the honor of the first person who I ever hit the ignore button. How does this feature work? Will I not see any of his post?

You know what Bruno, I think Im with anklebreakers on this one.
See since you are no longer welcomed on the Lakers board since you have been warned so many times for your posts and the term you always like to use (Trolling) you have this bad habit of turning every sinlge post by every single Laker poster on this board into an argument and insults by yourself.
Hey heres an idea, this isnt your board this board belongs to REALGM this is a public board for everyone as long as you repsect all the R&G of this board.
So grow up and stop baiting people and calling them out on every post or every remark they make.
Your making your board look bad and weak.
Your anger and retaliation is completely your fault.
You, like every other poster is welcomed on our board or any other board, but you have this drive by insults and remarks that you like to throw out on our board and thats what labeled you as a troll.
So please dont take that out on every Laker fan, just like I dont think all Cs fans are like you.
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