C's players desire to not only repeat but to be the first...

[HighAboveCourtside]

I agree with you....I was saying *I* wasn't being racist in pointing this out.

And I love how all we heard about was that Obama was going to lose because whites are racist and wouldn't vote for him (false, obviously) yet 96+% of blacks did, based solely cos he was black, and that was OK.

The Dems are the ultimate "do as I say not as I do" party (in EVERY area of life)!

I'm sorry, I wasn't saying you were racist, just that the idea was racist. Looks like you understood it anyways

Actually, it's completely racist to say something like 96% of blacks voted for Obama "solely because he was black." And fairly racist to imply in the first place that no blacks would vote for McCain - especially rich blacks. I saw an article mentioning how many Redskins players regardless of race were split on the election because of how it would affect their paychecks.
*Forgot to mention how, Gilbert Arenas in particular has mentioned how he was on the fence.*

Well, maybe not completely racist, but completely stupid.

Luckily we proved Tuesday that the American people are a lot less racist and a lot less stupid than we thought. But it's no surprise that the remaining racist and stupid people are going to try to use it as some kind of evidence that there are no such thing as stupid and racist whites anymore...

Go ahead and keep whining about how racist you think blacks are and how hypocritical you think democrats are, we proved Tuesday that the choir you think you're preaching to is considerably smaller than it used to be. And while you're at it, maybe you should reconsider rooting for a team that you apparently think consists of 14 racists out of 15; by the way how many non-white candidates have you supported for president? If you support a white guy 19 times out of 20..."how is that not racist?" by your criteria?

STFU and look at the stats. I voted for McCain, but I'm not whining that he lost. I'm actually looking forward to seeing what Obama can do for America. But if there was a statistic that came out saying 96% of white people voted for McCain, everyone would jump on it. Besides, how many "non-white" major ticket candidates have there been?

[campybatman]

If Boston can successfully repeat... I'll like to see the NBA Finals MVP (or even Rivers who's about the same age) play Obama one-on-one in a three-minute pick-up game or a quick round of horse would be neat.

Or do a post playoffs commercial congratulating the Celtics for repeating where Obama is featured with one or all of the Celtics players.

Confined to the bench back in his high school basketball days, Barack Obama felt the need to campaign for change.

The scrappy "Obomber," nicknamed for his jump shot, wanted playing time for himself and the other reserves. At a team meeting, Obama confronted his coach, a man who could be fiery and intimidating.

Obama had a flashy style the coach, Chris McLachlin, didn't fully appreciate, a game he described as "streetball, get after it, the defense doesn't know what's coming."

"He could've played and started on any other team in the state. He was that good. We just happened to have just a team that was pretty loaded," McLachlin said.

As a result, Obama found himself stuck behind a couple of veteran forwards. Punahou School would win the state championship 60-28, with Obama scoring only two points.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25186897/

[bawstin]

And I love how all we heard about was that Obama was going to lose because whites are racist and wouldn't vote for him (false, obviously) yet 96+% of blacks did, based solely cos he was black, and that was OK.

Racism is hate-based. The KKK didn't lynch people out of enthusiasm for white people. Hitler didn't want to eradicate Jews out of enthusiasm for gentiles.

If blacks turn out in record numbers to vote for the first black president, isn't that fundamentally different?

And if we dig into the numbers this argument literally doesn't add up. 85% of blacks vote democratic when they run a white candidate. 10% more voted for Obama.

BUT... democrats had higher party identification than republicans this year... so you need to control for that.

AND... democrats won a greater percentage of independent voters this year... so you need to control for that too.

So what percentage of "racist" blacks does that leave? 3%? 4%? 5%?

Isn't it more plausible that they were motivated by enthusiasm for the first black president than hatred for the 44th white president? Isn't this more similar to candidates carrying their home states? Nobody thinks that's weird.

[captain_cheapseats]

Ehhh, maybe it was just the channel I was watching the election coverage on (cbs), but a huge portion of the blackmericans they interviewed said they were mostly just excited to finally have a black president. As for whether of not that is "racist," even if it is, so what? Word is that the whole slavery thing -- followed by years of segregation and pervasive racism -- kinda sucked for black people. So if having a partially black prez somehow helps heal those wounds then super, we should have elected one a long time ago.

[captain_cheapseats]

Oh, as for what started the thread, I'm actually quasi-surprised Scal was the one guy. I'd have figured it would be one of the lower paid young guys, who might actually feel the tax hikes a little more. I certainly don't feel bad for them at all, but I can imagine it's at least kind of hard to have the $$ to pay for the sort of possessions you'd need to fit in with the vets when you've only been in the NBA a short time.

[canman1971]

It was Scal. It was in the Sunday Globe Celtics' Notebook he said something like "I am voting for McCain; I am a hardcore republican conservative."

[chakdaddy]

STFU and look at the stats. I voted for McCain, but I'm not whining that he lost. I'm actually looking forward to seeing what Obama can do for America. But if there was a statistic that came out saying 96% of white people voted for McCain, everyone would jump on it. Besides, how many "non-white" major ticket candidates have there been?[/quote]

Are you just that zealous to paint blacks as racist, or just plain stupid? Probably both.

Whites vote republican, what, 55, 60 pct of the time? And after 8 years of Bush, ton more vote Democrat.

Meanwhile blacks generally vote democrat, 85-90 pct of the time, and plus the same post-Bush jump in Democratic voting...

So you are trying to equate a theoretical jump from 55 pct of whites voting Republican, to 96 pct (which would be even more shocking given it being a big Democratic year), with a jump of 90 pct of blacks voting Democratic to 96 pct (which is also partly explained and less shocking by it being a big Democratic year).


That is just disingenuous and STUPID. And you very much are whining by complaining about how racist it was for blacks to vote for the same party they usually do anyway and implying that it's the reason your guy lost.

[HighAboveCourtside]

Hmm... that's funny. I thought I told you to STFU.

Now go get your f'n shinebox.

[chakdaddy]

Hmm... that's funny. I thought I told you to STFU.

Now go get your f'n shinebox.

Gee, I thought you were the one accusing other people of being racist? Did I goad you into dropping your guise and revealing yourself or are you going for some kind of "takes one to know one" argument?

btw did you see that Ernie Davis movie with that argument in the locker room and decide that a shoeshine comment is a clever racial insult to use and add to your repertroire?

[HighAboveCourtside]

Obviously you've never seen Goodfellas